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We have many factions in the US, some more short-sighted or zealous than others. There certainly are citizens of the US who feel that unquestioning compliance with authority is paramount above all other concerns, including long-term economic effects.

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They must be very short-sighted, even a dotard should be able to understand what happens if you remove large sections of a companies market overnight.

I mean, we would have to pull out of azure completely. Today we spend millions of kroner there every year.

It would also leave a very sour taste for going back to US based companies if this is rectified at a later stage of fear of a similar event.

Luckily US companies are much more nimble than their government. Most major companies have European branches and subsidiaries specifically for the purposes of ensuring international compliance and skirting around such legislative issues. We certainly poured a huge amount of engineering effort to make sure we had data centers that were EU compliant and completely bifurcated from our US datacenters.

You would have to show that the EU entity is not under the control of the US entity before the court. I don't see how you could get there without a fully separate entity that is not owned by the same parent company. Not to say it's not doable, AmaGooSoft are certainly capable of pulling it off, but you've got to be pretty convinced you're leaving a LOT of money in the table by not doing so.

I predict EU firms will get over it unless there are regulatory reasons they can't. Any EU company with a US presence is already vulnerable to DoJ lawsuits and can be directly compelled.

Regulatory reasons.

Just to demonstrate the kind of hell we have to go through (today) when we look at cloud services for storing personal data.

This is the recommended checklist from the Data Protection Authority in Norway when look at new cloud sources. By default we can't use anything outside the EEA, however there have been some agreements with e.g. US (safe harbour). This ruling will effectively eliminate the safe harbour agreements the EU/EEA has with the US.

https://www.datatilsynet.no/en/regulations-and-tools/guideli...

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