Under the assumption that for the next 10-20 years Catalonia wouldn't be allowed to join the EU, could someone of the pro separate group explain how a independent state of Catalonia is supposed to survive?
I'm Catalan, I'm against the independence, one reason is because I don't give a shit about being Spanish or Catalan, another is because the politicians here are exactly equally corrupts than the Spanish ones and economics ones.
But what I want is the right to have a referendum and vote no.
Funny thing is that if the entral government wanted to destroy the independist movement they could have modified the Constitution and allow that consult, the majority here is against the independence.
What a majority wants here is the right to vote
If Madrid listened half as well as it sneered, I suspect they'd have better relations with all their immediate neighbors.
https://www.invertia.com/es/-/-que-autonomias-deben-mas-dine...
Listen, there is more than the present status quo or independence, there a people that want less descentralization, there is people that want a federal state and there is people that wants a confederal state.
And a fucking lot of people support that others can decide want they want to be and, at the same time, doesn't agree whit their views.
I think people like you, that see this situation in balck and white and think that anyone that doesn't see like you is an independentist are part of the problem, no of the solution.
So I say advisedly that if the attitude and misunderstanding of facts among some of the unionists here is representative of a larger whole, it might not be possible to fix things. That's an outsider's point of view.