While I appreciate your freedom to post your disagreement, it does not make my comment or perception of HN any less valid. My question was, where does proper STEM discourse happen these days? Surely everyone didn't fade into the ether in silence, so where is everyone? It is not unrealistic or asking too much to ask that comments are on topic and not of a comedic nature. I'm not whining here, I love comedy, I'm genuinely asking because I need someone to point me in the right direction of where I should excuse myself to.

The meme is older than the internet for sure,

"In a paper on 'Pure Mathematics for Engineering Students,' published in The Bulletin for March 1901, I expressed opinions which coincide with those given here today. I then said that instruction in mathematics for engineering students should have two objects (1) to develop an engineering mind, and (2) to develop mathematics as an instrument of research for the engineer. I came to these conclusion at that time as a result of inquiries made of graduates of several institutions, who were in engineering practice, and of their employers. From the latter, I have had the statement that it is inadvisable to place a man in the higher positions in engineering who has not has a good mathematical training, especially, in the calculus, which, they assert, develops those modes of thought which are necessary to the engineer." Arthur E. Hayes, Symposium on Mathematics for Engineering Students, 1907