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Show HN: DeepSense – Know people better through AI-built profiles

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I got this for Donald Trump, interesting:

" Personality Donald j. trump is a rather confident and stable person and usually keeps his emotions under check. not easily fazed by any situation, he is usually dependable under. He is a relatively positive individual and likes being around other people. He has a good social circle and can be assertive when needed. He is emotional and judgmental. He is likely to be compassionate, cooperative, even tempered and helpful and is sometimes taken advantage of because of his trusting nature."

Following is based on using his Twitter profile as an identifier:

"Donald J. Trump is a spontaneous individual and takes life as it comes. he generally dislikes coloring within the lines and does not stress over the little things but sometimes struggles with procrastination. He is a very dynamic individual who is easily excitable and sensitive. Passionate and impulsive, he wears his emotions on his sleeve. He is slightly emotional and judgmental. He is competitive and challenging as well as frank and believes in speaking his mind. He is a usually thoughtful individual who likes his space. He is extremely positive and optimistic."

SOURCE: https://frrole.ai/deepsense-app/realDonaldTrump

This description is really redundant ("spontaneous", "easily excitable", "impulsive", ...). I guess it's good that the AI picked up on the fact that these often go together, but it's less good that they are all listed. Maybe it's just making up stuff that sounds plausible?

I wonder if it filters out retweets in the analysis. Would be interesting to see the differential. Also the differential for media included (video and photos of thank you messages) vs the direct raw 6am-10am messages.

yes it does. More about filters in the api docs here: http://api.frrole.com/v4/docs/user-profile

(warning: docs not fully updated yet. usual development to documentation lag:))

so using his old accounts this may have picked up that his behavior changed over time.. interesting.

OP is going to need to make a canned response of really negative things for Donald Trump if they want the tech community to respect their software. Only half sarcastic.

This is actually a really hard problem to solve. At my company we have been working with several social data enrichment providers and even the "best" have a pretty high degree of error.

For what it's worth we just typed in a few "lesser-known" emails/twitter handles and it picked up relevant and accurate data.

I'm going to signup for an API key and fill out the contact form so we can talk to you guys. Is there any plan to support Instagram handles? Twitter seems to be the network of choice among services like these but I would argue Instagram data is much more valuable, especially when it comes to influencer marketing.

Thanks Ryan, this is not fully baked yet but def. not half-baked either. It will do what it is supposed to do.

Instagram is coming, and linkedin too. Soon, very!

Totally agree with Ryan, I signed up API email right away too. This is something dope @kalkat,great work!

thanks mate!

From the profiles I've put in, I'm yet to see a single insightful response.

Thanks for trying DeepSense.

Are you not seeing any data for the profiles you've inputted? Or you didn't find the data useful?

Cheers!

I'm seeing general social media links, but very little content other than that. Almost no personality data for anyone I tried. If I put in a reasonably well-known HN user, thomas@sockpuppet.org, I am struggling to see any insight at all being returned.

it relies on twitter data a good bit for personality insights Peter, so people you tried are not twitter users perhaps?

try a couple of random twitter users, don't have to be popular, if you just want to get a sense.

We people are funny; We're spend so much time and effort these days making things that help us know things about others without actually talking to them.

Not a bad idea for marketing though.

If this is interesting to you, I suspect you'll find https://www.crystalknows.com/ even more interesting. (No association with the company whatsoever, just a happy user)

I looked at kimkardashian which was already in the `recently analyzed by you`. It has a nice collection of information collected from a variety of social medias seems like.

Not sure what it is though, the overall idea doesn't sit well with me. I have very little social media presence (doesn't find me) and idk how niche profiles will be classified. (i might play around with it after my class). I'd like to know what are the pros of using stuff like this outside of research and academia. Is `AI` really at a state for corporations who don't understand the workings of these stuff to use the data provided by it to make real world choices?

The idea is to use "public" social data to build a secondary layer of intelligence that software products can use to personalize / be more consumer aware (primary layer is their captive data based intelligence).

We think that software has been more about automation of workflows so far, its time it started becoming intelligent.

P.S. replying, as i am the product owner for this:)

https://frrole.ai/deepsense-app/realDonaldTrump Hilarious :)

It's the first one i tried too !

The only insight I felt was interesting or useful was the chart of his interaction frequency / sentiment with other accounts. That was neat to see. Dude really hates The New York Times!

He does. And CNN too.

From the responses here, it seems that astrology provides more useful insights.

Especially given the use of generic, meaningless phrases such as "is sometimes taken advantage of because of his trusting nature". Generated profile can even be self-contradictory (I posted mine in another comment - it said both that I'm "extremely negative and pessimistic" as well as "a generally positive individual"). Someone is jumping the AI bandwagon...

Based on my Twitter account, I learned that I'm "extremely negative and pessimistic", while "a generally positive individual". I'm also "even tempered" even though "emotional and judgmental".

(Full generated profile below) "[my Twitter user name] is quite compassionate, cooperative, even tempered and helpful and is sometimes taken advantage of because of his trusting nature. He is extremely negative and pessimistic. He is emotional and judgmental. He is a generally positive individual and likes being around other people. He has a good social circle and can be assertive when needed."

So this is a bit of sentiment analysis coupled with analyzing direct relationships in the social network and looking for influencers? What usefulness do I get out of this and why should I ultimatively pay money for this?

yup just a bit of sentiment analysis, mood analysis, personality analysis, predicting how you would behave as an employee, as as an irate customer, determining your demographics, your social influence. Just those few bits:)

You should use this if you are a product manager whose product needs to know more attributes of its users. You can drop me a line at <username> AT frrole DOT com and i would be happy to walk you through the details.

As if we didn't already have enough tools to judge & categorize people based on cursory, inconclusive, and superficial information.

Put in my twitter handle and it told me I'm 26 (5 years off) and enjoy Ashton Kutcher (I follow him and like some of his tweets because they're about interesting startups)

It did provide links to my YouTube channel and Flickr profile that I had forgotten about which is sorta neat.

All of the other metrics were left blank.

Some things will be off Alex, a lot of it is algorithmic construction. Try it now, sometimes it takes more than a few seconds for the full profile to be constructed (if there is a queue etc)

>Try it now

Did you just update his profile there manually? :p

Ha. Funny. But obv. no:) Maybe try a few that you don't share here..

Tried again and it had more of a filled out profile. Age / Location still way off, and lots of the mood stuff is extremely generic, but better than when I tried this morning.

Is this sort of analysis technically allowed by Twitter's ToS and Privacy Policy? Don't get me wrong, what you post on social media is public and that's that, but I know there are sometimes interesting rules around this sort of analysis.

"this sort of analysis" is a bit wide ranging, so can't comment, because some 'such' analysis might not sit pretty with twitter. But "this" is in line with policies, we in fact work with twitter and twitter is aware of this application.

This in fact has the potential to make twitter data useful for a new kind of user (product manager at a software product), so has the potential of making twitter useful for a sort of new segment of users.

I couldn't find a privacy policy or terms of service anywhere on their site.

This is a demo app. But yes, we should. point taken. thx.

Reminds me of this which was on show HN as well: https://www.crystalknows.com/

I am dazzled by the complete lack of any information.

you would be surprised that people have managed to work with a lot less ;-)

What is with this user activity plot?

http://imgur.com/a/3dgCp

It's the volume of the user's posts on social media over the months.

But why is it plotted with this arc bars. That is more than weird, isn't it?

You may need to watch out for the fair credit reporting act in generated these profiles.

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