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I don't get it: there is already a widely accepted 'better' Java called Kotlin, that features much more than this: way better integration with IDEs, way better integration with existing Java codebases, better everything... Yet somehow we should start using NEW IDE with NEW language supported by completely unknown company with zero guarantees about its support. I just don't get it.

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The difference is that it's a superset, whereas Kotlin is a different language with Java interop, that's designed to be familiar to Java programmers.

To use a JavaScript analogy, Kotlin is CoffeScript, and Iodine is Typescript.

I don't know what it is about programmers that we seem to love reinventing the wheel.

It is usually fun exercise that has little certainty (you know what to do and even how if you bother to study) in it, but is still intellectually satisfying. Usually great learning experience. Once in a while, project that wins over others (requires a lot of bullshitting on conferences tho).

And Scala, and Groovy...

Furthermore iodine is already the name of a popular IP-over-DNS tool.

While we're on the subject of interesting titbits, Apache Groovy was first announced 14 years ago. It's creator, James Strachan, announced Groovy on 29 August 2003, hosting it at groovy.codehaus.org.

Well, it's a competition. Why not.

RemObjects is not unknown. You're just new.

New to me though it looks like they've been around for decades. What are they best known for?

They have an Object Pascal for .NET that was the basis of Delphi for .NET.

Codegear had a partnership with them.

They were also the only company to offer a Swift compiler, before Apple released it as open source.

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