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Craft Wireless Keyboard for Precision, Creativity and Productivity

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18 pointskjhughes32 comments

So it's a standard logitech crappy keyboard that comes with one of these?

https://www.amazon.com/Griffin-Technology-NA16029-Multimedia...

The marketing on this is great, but the product is pretty underwhelming.

Reserve judgement till you can feel the keyswitches. This looks like it would be good for mac users who want the Apple look, but can't stand Apple's key feel

I would 100% buy an Apple keyboard for my MBP, but last I checked they didn't have one with Bluetooth and a numpad. As a developer, I can't not have a numpad, and having wires sucks. I got the Logitech K750 solar keyboard with their little universal USB receiver.

The good: Logitech universal receiver is actually really reliable. I haven't had a single issue with it at all. Bluetooth on Macs seems unreliable, based on my experience with the Apple track pad, BT headphones, etc. The keyboard never needs batteries. All Mac-specific keys are there.

The bad: The keys are not the same as Apple's. I liked Apple's better. No, I haven't bought into the mechanical keyboard cult yet, and I probably should, but I did like my wired Apple keyboard quite a bit. The keyboard case is made from plastic made to look like aluminum. It also has a bend/bump in the middle of it which is most pronounced in the solar panel. I'd expect better from a $70 keyboard.

They've recently updated their line to include a wireless keyboard with numeric keypad.

https://www.apple.com/shop/product/MQ052LL/A/magic-keyboard-...

> As a developer, I can't not have a numpad

This feels a bit like "how to draw an owl"[0]. Can you connect the dots?

[0] http://cdn.dioramadrama.com/uploads/2015/05/how-to-draw-an-o...

What's to connect? I use the bumped hourly.

(I assume that's autocorrect.)

I'm also a developer, and I can get by just fine without a numpad. I know or have seen hundreds if not thousands of devs without a numpad who write code just fine. "I'm a developer, therefore I need a numpad" is missing a few intermediate steps!

Logitech has a strange concept of Mac support [1]. Keyboards with Mac symbols on them (cmd, opt), have other standard keys that don't work as with an Apple keyboard, namely home and end. Their drivers support very limited remapping. I would not buy a $200 keyboard without proper driver support.

[1] https://community.logitech.com/s/question/0D53100006i9u91/mk...

The input dial is cool, but there is no mention at all of what kind of switches they're using.

Is anyone really buying rubber-dome keyboards for $200?

Apple's Magic Keyboard is not far off and people are obviously buying that one.

Fully agree, as well as logitech has been left in the dust when it comes to ergonomics. There are smaller companies (ergodox-ez, matias) that blow away all big corp ergo keyboard offerings.

Yes.

It's easy to get caught up with the resurgence of 'Mechanical' Keyboards. However it's a niche market. But most casual consumers don't want that(want chiclet keys).

Yeah it's a little much when you can buy a wireless keyboard from them with a touchpad for $40.

Good question. But I did pay what seemed like a lot for this thing: http://matias.ca/quietpro/mac/

And I absolutely love it.

They should put one on both sides so you can navigate like an etch a sketch

No matter how good or bad this design and its functions may be, I always find it refreshing if a certain area is innovated that has been "ignored" for a longer period of time. Even if it is incremental.

> a longer period of time

Indeed, QWERTY was designed in the 1870s.

How is this #2 on HN?

A wireless, chiclet, non-mechanical keyboard from Logitech. Is HN being manipulated like other social media?

This is actually rather appealing to me. I'm not a huge fan of most mechanical keyboards and do most of my coding with a wired Mac keyboard with 10-key. But since I'm not on a Mac, there's a couple small things missing (Print screen and Insert, I believe). Also, the keyboard really needs just a smidge more resistance: resting my fingers on the keys results in a keypress a little too often.

I also really like a physical volume wheel, which I think that knob can be. A wireless apple keyboard runs $130, so it is a little on the high side, but it wouldn't surprise me to see this running ~$180 or so most places.

Hopefully it can emulate the Surface Dial. I don't think we need two competing dial interfaces for each app.

For those that haven't seen it: https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/surface/accessories/surface-...

Microsoft has published the HID details [1] so it should theoretically be possible.

[1] https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/windows-hardware/design/com...

What's the "slot" on the back next to the USB C port?

There's nothing in the tech specs about it. Looks like a smart card reader but that would be weird on a wireless keyboard.

If the back half is metal, maybe it's a window for the Bluetooth antenna?

What picture are you seeing that on?

That looks terrible to type on, like a chiclet laptop keyboard. I put up with those because it's a decent compromise for a portable computer, but at a desktop? And for $200? Who is the market for this?

Don't see an ergonomic version. For me that's a must.

What kind of switches? If scissor switches like the old UltraX then take my money. Or even better keep that dial and take half as much of my money.

I see 3 buttons for multi device switching. Been looking for that on logitech keyboard that can be used for programming as well.

Yawn. For this kind of money, one can get a lot more elsewhere.

Is the dial just like alt-tabbing through windows and acting as a pre-built function key? Really meh on this "precision creativity and productivity"

No ten-keyless version, no sale.

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