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"But people within the industrial design team including Jonathan Ive, Apple’s chief designer, believed that a fully driverless car would allow the company to reimagine the automobile experience, according to the five people."

Ah Jony Ive, first he ruined iOS 7 and now this constant need to tinker with things that work fine. I love the hardware design but please leave the software and HID bit alone... of course YMMV

P.S. Anyone feel iOS usability has been going down with the move to a flat design?

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I think iOS usability has become and is increasingly becoming, more complicated and less easy to use. But this doesn't have anything to do with the flat design, but with the many features, buttons, and gestures being added every new release.

I think it's the new features - but also the desire to make the OS appear simple - so new features get hidden in unexpected places and it feels inconsistent. iOS was a breeze to use up until iOS 6 because it didn't really do all that much and it's much easier to design a small screen interface if you don't have many features.

Having to teach my dad that buttons and settings are hidden until you tap something or swipe around has proven to me that the new UI is trying to be more clever all while being extremely confusing.

Nope. Flat design for iOS was Apple's best move. iOS 7 was what made iOS amazing. I have no clue what you're talking about. Full credit to Jony Ive, some of the UI design I've seen.

It was nice that they followed the Microsoft flat design stuff. Weird that it was all psychedelic, though. That was hilarious.

I wonder if Ive has as much influence as people think. The last few iPhones look horrible with the camera sticking out. And it looks like this will be the case for iPhone 8 too.

I imagine he must not be very happy with the way they look either.

I miss the textures a lot. All the flatness makes the UI too harsh.

Disagree. This feels more contemporary and integrated.

Yes, old design icons made more sense, new flat ones are too abstract

I was looking at an iOS screenshot from 6 or 7 years ago, and was amazed at how the battery and location services and bluetooth icons all really popped in color and texture. No more. Now I have to find a hidden force touch control to do.. well, god knows what.

What do you think he got wrong with ios7?

Well to be clear it's everything UI wise since ios7.

Links: https://www.fastcodesign.com/3053406/how-apple-is-giving-des...

https://youtu.be/RT46MpK39rQ?t=2104

TL;DR ver: -> Inconsistent UI within an app -> Gestures that are inconsistent across apps and within the same app -> No undo (I mean shake to undo doesn't count)

Well put /s.

C'mon. That's low effort and not conducive to actual discussion. At least say why you disagree.

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