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Automation is the only real solution. These types of conversations seem to always overlook how normal people don't want to watch such videos. Do you want to spend your day watching this stuff to grade them?

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Yet youtube is admitting that the videos should not have been pulled, and there's no AI in the world that could have made the right call here. So... what sort of automation are you suggesting? It seems as though the real solution is the exact opposite of what you're proposing; human review by better trained personnel with clearly defined criteria.

This is irresponsible to the trained personnel. We have job safety requirements for people working on assembly lines. We should also have psychological safety for people, and there are lots of stories of employees that are paid to view the toxic videos suffering (even developing PTSD).

We have psychological safety checks for police/social service workers/military/etc.

Could those not apply here?

So we shouldn't allow jobs which may expose employees to psychologically harmful experiences? You realize you'd have to outlaw a whole slew of professions, right? If you can't take it then don't work the job, Yeesh.

The real solution is to continue to blame the machines whenever an angry mob decides to show up at their doorstep instead of admitting it was their clearly defined criteria that was at fault.

"Do you want to spend your day watching this stuff to grade them?"

What about providing more tools for community to categorize disturbing videos other than simply "flag".

I will literally never choose to watch a disturbing but real event. War crimes, either in the form of documenting them or promoting them, will be flagged as "people like Ben never click on previews of this video, don't waste time suggesting it to them in future". I won't even get as far as the page the flag button is on, never mind any other options.

Sounds like the system would be doing its job in that case.

Only insofar as the system is there to make me spend more time watching videos; it does nothing to help categorise or identify propoganda that isn't targeted at me.

> These types of conversations seem to always overlook how normal people don't want to watch such videos

That makes me not normal, I guess. Plus, the NSFL videos were almost instantly taken off YT immediately after having been uploaded, what had remained was really interesting stuff documenting the war in Syria (or at least interesting for people such as myself, a guy interested in wars and conflicts in general).

So hire abnormal people?

I'm pretty sure there's a healthy chunk of population who would be unfazed and would love a cushy job judging videos.

People also don't want to spend their day scrubbing toilets, but there are plenty of janitors out there.

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