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Can anyone at Apple comment on the perception of Cook inside the company? He seems like a fairly inspiring leader to me, considering his position on LGBT issues, the FBI decryption incident, and now this. I don't work for him, though, and I'd be interested to hear from someone who does.

I had little respect for Cook when he joined Trump, I lost it all after the China Appstore incidence. Anything that comes from him regarding moral and ethics I ignore

I'm so glad a billionaire is sticking up for human rights activists who mace old men and women, beat people with bike locks, vandalise businesses and destroy migrant businesses.

There is absolutely no defense for Nazis in society, and fortunately noone does defend their ideals. But antifa are equally indefensible but there are scores in the media who defend them - the Berkely riots and the Inauguration riots were hardly condemned by any on the left.

Antifa will be equally indefensible after they gas 8 million people.

Can't we just agree that both sides share a lame-ass hateful ideology? They are both acting terrible.

Antifa beats up old people, destroys property for no goddamn reason, and hurt people with bats and bike locks. The Neo-nazis say racist shit that is largely false and they antagonize a lot of people. They both sound idiotic and act like a group of fools, can't we just say they both suck and move on to actual policy questions....

Regardless of the merits or flaws of either identity, it is a fallacy of false equivalence to claim they are of equal threat to the public safety. Antifa are a rowdy thuggish reactionary youth subculture that only shows up to rallies, neo-Nazis are a real danger that have been tracked by law enforcement officials for decades.

Antifa's name and flag come from 1930s Germany, a group called Antifaschistische Aktion, a communist paramilitary organization patterned on the Bolsheviks.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antifaschistische_Aktion

So they are affiliated with groups that killed millions, just as neo-nazis are ideologically related to the original version.

It's an excuse to get over the rights guilt about the ideas they helped foster. If they convince themselves the left is as bad then they can't really be that wrong.

Even those who actually lived and helped kill those 8 million people in WWII had war crime trials. If any one of the evil white dudes was a war criminal from Nazi Germany, besides being pretty old, and we'd already have arrested them. Godwin's Century has begun.

Alternative title: Tim Cook apparently doesn't understand current politics, thus proving why a business's which sells products should not get involved in political press releases.

>Alternative title: Tim Cook apparently doesn't understand current politics

Can you explain how? Denouncing bigotry is, after this weekend, 100% in line with current politics.

The amount of business Apple would lose over this is minuscule.

Since when did saying that we should stop violent racists become a political thing?

Nobody is arguing that being anti-crime is a political stance. But Cook's letter goes way beyond that.

>way beyond that

By quoting Luther King? I'm having a hard time seeing what you find wrong here.

There's a bunch of stuff to choose from, but I'll just pick one at random. He said: "we are all equal". Though we all should be treated equally under the law, and we all deserve equal protections for certain things, as a point of fact, we are not all equal.

That's exactly what it fucking means.

"We are all equal" obviously, clearly means "we are all entitled to equal treatment", not "there are literally no differences between any two people."

I agree with your interpretation and don't actually understand how this bit is even a sensible thing to nitpick.

Motte and Bailey argument. If that's what Cook meant he could have written that. He wanted to have it both ways.

Oh gosh golly I can see why you got riled up over such a massive issue like that line. Tell me more.

Just reread Cook's speech with an eye towards what statements there is not a 99+% consensus on. Those are the political statements. I'm an Apple developer, shareholder, and end-user, and I don't want Cook making political statements.

>Just reread Cook's speech with an eye towards what statements there is not a 99+% consensus on.

The statement you quoted is one such statement.

It's hard to tell if you're being sincere, because what you pointed to as an example of a political statement is utterly baffling.

If you think 99% of people agree with that, you're living in a bubble.

It always has been, if at times a relatively uncontroversial political position.

The political of the day are such that it is somewhat more controversial than at some other times.

November 9, 2016

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