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That's the next stage in the war. First we need to prevent Elsevier etc from extorting readers. So that forces them to extort authors. And it's authors who can choose where to publish. Eventually, Elsevier etc will be forced out of the academic publishing sector. And good riddance to them!

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> First we need to prevent Elsevier etc from extorting readers. So that forces them to extort authors.

The extortion will ultimately be of the tax payer money. Authors will ask for more money during research grants citing this "open access" policy.

I don't presume to be aware of all the implementation details, but in the abstract, is this not a pretty excellent use of tax payer money? To support universal access to research, data, and educational materials?

Tax payer money is already funded to conduct research. Why do we need to pay 2000$ to host a PDF article?

You do not need to pay to host a PDF article, there are platforms such as arxiv.org or zenodo.org that do this for free for you.

Yes, but as others have said, professional advancement typically depends on publishing in the expensive journals. And that's no accident, in that predatory for-profit publishers have targeted prestigious journals for acquisition. It's the same game that drug makers play with top-selling drugs.

Eventually, authors will migrate to the not-for-profit open access journals and platforms. But that will take time. Top-ranked PIs must lead the way, given that their reputations are well established, and they have tenure.

Supporting research is an excellent use of tax payer money. But paying monopoly rents to publish? Not so much, I think.

AFAIK this is already happening in some fields, or is actually an individual line item in some grant applications.

I have considerable experience with this issue. For large requests, the granting entity will send a team. They check out the facilities, interview staff, and interactively dig through budgets. I suspect that there will be pushback about paying inflated amounts to publishers. Maybe the amounts are relatively small, but wouldn't PIs rather spend $50K or whatever on productive resources?

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