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Though I do enjoy his podcasts, it's more entertainment than history.
As far as I can tell, you've hit on exactly the distinction he's trying to make in the episode. There's a running theme of highlighting the difference in attitude towards war/death from the Romans to the modern era, especially with respect to things like civilian extermination.
The name might be unfortunate, but he's pretty open about acknowledging that it's an intentional juxtaposition.
Dramatic? Yes, but legitimately so based on the narrative and the presentation.
His style and interests won't match everyone's taste, but he is providing a high quality product.
You should not compare ancient post-war extermination events with a modern, civilized state exterminating a section of the population in an organized manner. It just dilutes the extremity of what the Nazi's did.
conversely, does the (sometimes aggressive) privileging of ww2 wrongs not "dilute" what others have faced? even in modern or near-modern times?
it also seems such a bizarre point of view that something was "relatively common" (and i'm not sure this phrasing is helpful) therefore it's /less/ of a tragedy for that fact.
Yes. I guess it was special. I think that it touches something we fear deeply - that seemingly rational/intelligent/scientific people can do evil things.
I think there have been plenty of things since then which have similar levels of horrificness (albeit usually on a smaller scale). I just don't think they proc the "there but for the grace of god go I" reaction
I'm just wondering there have been genocides of peoples throughout history right up to today. See Rwanda east timore/ south Sudan. I think in each case it was a holocaust for the targeted group.
In my view a genocide is a description of an event. The Jewish Holocaust articulates the target and effectively re-frames the conversation to group who was targeted. It also conveys that the genocide was general enough to affect the overall survival of the people. There are many conquests in history Rome defeated Carthage 3 times but only the third Punic war resulted in the cartagenian holocaust.
Yes.