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Google Memo Author James Damore Talks to Jordan Peterson [video]

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Something discussed in the video. Google held "secret" diversity meetings, secret from the perspective of all meetings are usually recorded at Google and made available but these ones where specifically not apparently. James mentions that these meetings where used to discuss (allegedly) illegal hiring practices.

I'm not from the US, but as far as I understand what's generally labelled "positive discrimination" isn't just legal, is it not highly promoted? Just trying to understand what could be mean't from illegal if these hiring practices are widespread and encouraged.

Looks like the other post got flagged. There seems to be people doing their best to not have this topic discussed.

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=14967529

would be interesting to see a list of all the google memo links that got flagged/removed today...

Agreed. The reaction is the real story here as far as I'm concerned.

Check out http://hckrnews.com/ - it keeps all stories on HN frontpage, even flagged and downvoted ones (AFAIK).

Wow, according to this, HN is hard at work at suppressing the Google Memo news story.

HN users (not admins) - although I imagine the objective isn't "supressing the story" as opposed to "suppressing drama".

How can you tell?

I suspect many people flag because they are getting tired of the drama, and that many articles submitted are very similar news reports covering the same ground.

However this video interview of the memo writer is newsworthy and I think extends the discussion more - at least for those who did not read the memo, they can hear the author speak about it.

I wonder when Damore will be giving interviews on traditional video media? And I wonder how they will represent it. I certainly hope he gets interviewed by rational people who oppose his views. It appears that Google's YouTube is where these news breaks first, and also that he is interviewed first by allies.

The evergreen professor didn't get any mainstream interviews, did he?

Tucker Carlson on Fox had him on. Fox is one of the only MSM sources where you can discuss free speech openly.

ha!

You realize the bias at fox makes CNN look like the pinnacle of respectable journalism?

I recognize they're biased, but they allow discussion about free speech. Those two things aren't mutually exclusive.

> I wonder when Damore will be giving interviews on traditional video media?

Hopefully never.

> And I wonder how they will represent it.

By misrepresenting his views like they have so far. He does not look like he is ready to face anyone in the absurd format of what has become news on TV.

Okay, then why not a podcaster who's not part of the right wing echo chamber?

Why not someone more "legitimate" who's still capable of a fair discussion instead of shouting. A newspaper interview perhaps.

Peterson tentatively suggested that he ought to consider giving it a shot.

Wouldn't it be so much better if the 'flagged' message would say 'flagged as offtopic' like Stack Overflow ...

Then at least we can be reminded that that's the main reason for flagging.

I realise the irony ...

Submissions are flagged by users. I think most users here are becoming fed up with this story (even if this video is worth a watch in my opinion). I've observed admins unflagging submissions on a regular basis.

Why is this flagged, and why do the submitted links keep disappearing? (This video in this link is incomplete, the full video is here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SEDuVF7kiPU)

The full video is very well put together, including links to the scientific papers discussed. This is a high-profile event at one of the largest internet tech company in existance, and it has a bearing on every one of our lives.

So why is it being flagged and removed everywhere?

> Why is this flagged

I think we all know why...

Admins need to unflag this.

Damore deserves his own words in the face of everyone spinning his words.

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