Comment by cgb223 | Hacker News Reader

Comment by cgb223 | Hacker News Reader

I just want to share my two cents here:

I am a man in my 20's. At the moment, I am seeing people casually, because that's the kind of relationships I currently want and have time for.

I have been wanting male birth control for a while now.

As a guy I feel like a lot of what we are told as teenagers by our parents, and so on is that what ever you do, dont get someone pregnant. It will ruin your life, and probably the life of the child.

I know many people who have had pregnancy scares with people who were keen on keeping the child, without discussing whether the male counterpart felt similarly.

If men had the ability to control whether they could get someone pregnant, it allows them to live their lives, enjoy themselves, and explore without fear of negative life changing repercussions.

I'd imagine the arguments for women's birth control back in the 60's (70's?) were similar, with the added issue of carrying the child.

I'm not sure why male birth control is so controversial here on this forum, and in general, it sounds like the arguments for both sexes are similar, and having control of ones own body is never a bad thing.

So use a condom. Especially if you are seeing people casually, as that helps prevent STD infection.

As said in the article. Condoms doesn't work 18% of the time. That's a pretty high failure rate.

The contraception methods available to women are much more effective.

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https://sexetc.org/info-center/post/do-condoms-work-whats-th... Condoms—when used correctly and consistently—prevent pregnancy about 98 percent of the time. The typical effectiveness rate—where mistakes are made or condoms break—is about 82 percent.

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It works all the time when ignoring the times it didn't.

Now that's intellectual dishonesty. You start with using wrong numbers (or manipulating numbers in a dishonest way to prove your point), then when someone calls you out on that you give that sort of troll answer. 98% is on par with the best female contraceptive methods, and it probably better than what we could achieve with male pills.

What? He cited a failure rate of 18%, which the article supports and you quote as the "typical" failure rate, taking into account that condoms do break and are used incorrectly at times.

If a manufacturer says their manual transmission car gets 45 miles to the gallon, and Fuelly says that same car gets 39 mpg (averaged over a million user mileage submissions), is it intellectually dishonest to use 39 as the working figure when budgeting for gas?

What you interpret as a troll answer, I interpret as a reasonably clear explanation of why he chose the figure he did.

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