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Christ, this needs to be further up. All this discussion of whether or not the cartoon was politicized becomes moot when they have dark-skinned Celts.

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How do you know that there weren't dark-skinned Celts? But maybe you're saying that there are?

Consider that priests of the Lemba tribe carry the Y-chromosome Cohen gene.

http://www.worldjewishcongress.org/en/news/lemba-tribe-in-so...

The fact that we don't know means that we must depict Celts as black, just in case. After all, it's a possibility.

There could have been one black Celt, no? People did get around.

Why not red? I mean, how do you know there wasn't one?

I'm not sure what you mean by "red". But as I've said, people did move around. And really, "all Celts were white" is arguably far less likely than "some Celts were not white".

Except no one is saying that. They are questioning the portrayal of a "typical" celt family.

OK, so the cartoon features two people. One light, and one dark. But are the authors claiming 50% dark? And how would they represent 1% dark?

The point of depicting a "typical" scenario is that you don't represent the 1% dark. In the same way that a representation of a "typical" household doesn't include a homeless man, a billionaire, and someone in between. The billionaire and the homeless man are not included because they are not representative of what is typical.

Sure, I get that. But it's been the rule to never show blacks in contexts where we know they existed, and were even common. So a little balance doesn't seem unreasonable.

Lying is still lying, even if you feel that the lie accomplishes some political agenda that you happen to believe in. In this case, if you say that this is a typical family when it is not, then the fact that you lied for what you think is a nobler purpose doesn't make this OK.

History doesn't really operate on "well you don't know for sure". The Romans describe the celts as light-skinned and blonde. Modern people with Celtic ancestry are also light-skinned. There's absolutely no evidence to suggest they were anything but.

OK, fair enough. But maybe that was just Celts that those Romans ran into. I certainly don't know. But damn, before I read about the Cohen gene in the Lemba, I had assumed that black Jews were converts.

Celts are a fabricated identity. The modern representation arose out of trying to have a pan European ancestry and identity in the 19th century.

What about the Celtic languages?

Do you have a source for this? Who exactly were the Romans conquering if not Celtic Britons?

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