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Also, according to the NYT article, all investors tripled their money.

"The investors who invested all made money — by the defense’s tally, more than triple what they invested."

So, it is okay to lie to investors, as long as you eventually pull a success off? And you make those investors you were lying to money by committing fraud on the investors in your new company (Retrophin), so they make money, but not as much they would have if you weren't secretly taking profits to pay off the investors you previously defrauded?

While I don't agree to what shkreli did, founders / promoters lie all time .

It's not fraud if investors make money? Someone better tell Madoff that he's getting out.

The operative word here is "all."

That doesn't matter. Lying during a business deal is still fraud.

Ever watch a commercial?

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