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> immigrants couldn't possibly love their second country as much as native-borns.

I think they're more worried that immigrants won't love whites as much as other whites do.

And why wouldn't they? Would you move to China if you didn't like Chinese people? Yet I've noticed this phenomenon recently, in which new Canadians think it is appropriate to disparage the old ones despite their choice to move to Canada. Racism never ceases to amaze me.

I understand your logic, but I don't believe its an accurate paradigm. Most immigrants don't migrate for cultural reasons, its more for economic ones. Most of my immigrant friends wouldn't give a shit what color the majority people were in the country they moved to as long as it was 1) Tolerant and 2) Provided better economic opportunities and quality of life.

I'm not saying non-whites hate the whites or anything. I'm suggesting that's not the primary motivation for immigrants. For refugees... they literally just want to escape their hometown to escape death, so I think survival comes before anything else really.

The fact that the majority of refugees arriving to Europe these days seem to be pushing to get to Germany, Britain or Scandanavia despite being able to "survive" in Turkey, Greece or Italy seems to refute your point a little.

I don't see that it does, really. If Turkey gave citizenship to these refugees, and just allowed them to start their lives, they would perhaps have continued to stay there. Maybe I should have used a better word. They left their homeland to escape terrible conditions, but their conditions in camps in Turkey or Greece aren't very good either. They are trying to get back a semblance of normal life, which Germany seems to promise them.

I suspect a not-insignificant portion of the refugee population are actually economic migrants using the situation to their advantage.

Isn't it a little ridiculous not to expect immigrants to have favorable opinions of the host population? What you say is probably true for a great portion of immigrants in general but the tolerance must extend both ways. Being disliked by your guests is a pretty disheartening experience and likely a cause of some of the backlash we've been seeing lately.

Disparaging certain demographics, namely white people and men, is trendy these days and there's no shortage of self-loathing people in Canada with an apparent eagerness to provide a platform to enable and facilitate that/those trend(s).

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