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Is there some definition of "truck" which this vehicle does not fulfill?

Yeah - ladder frame.

Of course, this is just my opinion, and a ton of older vehicles that are considered cars would fall into this category. Heck, a standard Jeep Wrangler would fall into this category.

Furthermore, there isn't any reason you couldn't make a truck (that is, a pickup) using a unibody approach, but I don't know of any examples (which just may be my ignorance).

Regardless - I always consider anything modern with a ladder frame to be a "truck". It may not be a pickup, but to me it's still a truck.

Longer bed, basically. It's the difference between SUV and truck. The B1 is closest to a 2 door Jeep Wrangler and those aren't trucks at all.

That's specifically a pickup truck. There are multiple kinds of trucks, and a pickup truck with a bed is only one kind of truck.

> The B1 is closest to a 2 door Jeep Wrangler and those aren't trucks at all.

Remove the backseat and top - ultra-shortbed pickup!

Also this:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeep_Comanche

Then there's this:

https://gr8tops.com/shop/jeepmodels/jk-wrangler/jeep-wrangle...

And finally:

http://www.roadandtrack.com/new-cars/future-cars/news/a29009...

My definition of truck: if you can't dump a ton of shit in the bed with a backhoe, it's not a truck. It's a minivan.

For me, having a permanent bed cover means it's not useful as a truck.

The bed cover's not permanent, though; it's removable per the pictures in http://www.motorauthority.com/news/1111790_bollinger-b1-the-...

It also has a recommended cargo weight of 6,000 pounds, so it can haul a ton (literally! and two more!) of shit.

This is really no less of a truck than a Ford Bronco or Dodge Ramcharger.

also don't consider those trucks

Thanks, I didn't look far enough to see that the bedcover is removable. Now this truck is an option for me.

So many people confuse "truck" with "pickup truck". A pickup is one type of truck. There are more types of trucks than just pickup trucks.

Yeah - technically. But this whole discussion is about the consumer space, not about those purchasing commercial equipment for hauling tonnage or whatnot.

Even so, though - there are plenty of consumer pickup models which are used commercially, and more than a few can handle some pretty big loads (especially towing)...

That hilariously restrictive definition would have classified my old beast of an ex-military cargo vehicle as a "minivan", but I doubt you'd convince any onlooker to label a vehicle like this as anything other than a "truck":

http://www.tacticaltruck.com/images_other/m109a3.jpg

GVM > 4.5 ton is what makes a truck. Anything less is not a truck. 4.5 to 8 ton is light, 8 - 12 is medium, 12 ton an up is heavy for rigid trucks. That thing is a SUV.

Its GVWR is 5 ton.

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