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Why not? These billionaire capitalists don't force people to work for them nor do they force people to buy their products and services - but people do in large numbers. A sort of democratic vote against your submission. Are the people who don't buy into their products suffering in some way? Explain!

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Because everyone simply decided to participate in the prevailing social/economic system? I wish I could simply decide to opt out.

You can... You can move to a country that has the economic system you want or you can leave society all together.

i don't want to live in the woods, i want a world in which people who make iphones don't kill themselves

What a strange condition. Why not I want to live in a world where people aren't hungry? What about a world without suffering? A world without conflict and scarcity?

If iPhone manufacturing is your only gripe with this world we find ourselves in, I'd say we've got it pretty good.

i want all those things. my point was "if you dont like the system, leave" is a bad argument

You can't just leave and live in the woods like a hunter gatherer because there aren't enough people doing that to form an actual tribe.

You can't find 10 people dissatisfied with capitalism, on the internet??

Like Marc Andreessen said, Venezuela's great this time of year.

no individual capitalist forces someone to work, no, but the logic of the market necessarily leads to poverty and exploitation.

the market is not democratic, those who control more wealth and capital necessarily have more power.

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