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Well, some healthy competition in the budget-friendly CPU market, and a good alternative to Intel's i3 (slacking) lineup. Great news for customers!

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I'd pit them against the i5. Look at the gaming benchmarks, the 1300X is better in some and worse in some other games, but in general on par. While being cheaper and overclockable. I would also be surprised if one could not overclock the 1200 close to the level of the 1500X, and then that $100 cpu will beat the 7400 and be on par with the 7500.

And in non-gaming performance looks even better.

Edit: Or maybe not. In http://www.gamersnexus.net/hwreviews/3001-amd-r3-1300x-revie... there is still a comfortable lead of the i5s over the overclocked 1300X, in that different game selection. I will have to wait to see what my meta-benchmark says.

Well, iirc Ryzen 5, gaming performancr got better some time after release, both due to developer optimization processes, and AMD's BIOS updates. i5s should (and probably will be) ahead of R3, but that's more R5's ballpark.

That's sadly unlikely to happen again for the R3, as it is the same architecture as the R5. It will already profit from the prior optimizations. Maybe some gains where hyperthreading was assumed. I checked some benchmarks more by now and it really seems like your last sentence is right: The i5 is in R5s ballpark, the R3 can't reach it.

They are missing an iGPU, especially in that price segment.

We're already a month into the promised release period of 2H17 for Raven Ridge. Let's hope it comes out closer to the beginning of 2H17 than the end.

http://wccftech.com/amd-raven-ridge-ryzen-apu-vega-gpu-leak/

We will likely see Zen-based laptops before we see Zen-based standalone APUs, with laptops coming for the holiday season (ie: Oct/Nov) and APUs late 1H18.

I wouldn't mind seeing a good Zen based laptop... Something around an R7 1700 would be nice, maybe 10-20% lower clock for thermals. Something capable of 64gb ram and user serviceable nvme and/or ssd would be great.

There's a decent amount of small form factor Intel stuff on laptop chips (Chromebox, Asus Vivo Mini, etc), if socketed apus aren't forthcoming, that might be something that happens with AMD chips too.

The fact that they announced it as 'second half' as opposed to 'third quarter' should tell you enough.

Anyway, Raven Ridge will be released in laptops first. Desktop Raven Ridge will not be released in desktop formats until 2018.

Bristol Ridge APUs were launched today. AM4 socket, DDR4 capable, but it's an updated version of the older architecture, not Zen.

http://www.anandtech.com/show/11669/amd-releases-bristol-rid...

While I absolutely agree and want to see much more competition - I believe we /need/ to see ECC across the board and of course lack of an integrated GPU seems like it renders the most common deployments of this range of CPU less attractive.

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