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Comment by KozmoNau7 | Hacker News Reader

The "No items, Fox only, Final Destination" mentality kills all fun.

It's not that it kills the fun. It's that it changes the game parameters so much that it become a different game.

Edit: Which is fair when you take into consideration that the game came out in 2001 and people have been playing it for the last 16 years.

Perceiving other people's preferences as killing the fun kills the fun.

> Fox only

Fox may be considered the best character, but I've seen Capt. Falcon, Marth, Shiek, Peach at Evo this year.

> Final Destination

Kirby's Dreamland, Battlefield, Fountain of Dreams, and Pokemon Stadium are all valid tournament stages, among others.

The only "truth" to the meme with regards to the strictest of Evo matches is "no items". Because becoming INVINCIBLE for a set period of time, or automatically gaining back 100% of your life completely breaks the game. And no one seems to be able to differentiate between "fair" and "unfair" items.

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> "No items, Fox only, Final Destination"

This mentality simply doesn't exist anywhere. The most competitive of Smash Melee players have a set of rules that are far more intricate.

I swear, it's just like in the old days of Counterstrike, where every weenie would go "no AWP! And no camping!", and storm off in a huff if you played the game as it was made.

Clearly it doesn't kill the fun for the people that play that way (and I know you're expressing a meme, but competitive smash is much more than fox only, FD).

What kills fun are people who want to play a game together but have entirely different expectations and are unwilling to try it the other way.

Seriously fox dittos are way better on other stages besides FD, the chain grab is entirely too easy.

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