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I decided to look into this and it was a gigantic waste of time so here's what I found so that you don't have to. From the page:

> Allegedly, I was “raising funds in order to take part in activities that are likely to cause loss of life.” Despite this being not even remotely true [..]

The money was being raised to allow the OP to be on the "Defend Europe" boat, which exists "to hamper the rescue of refugees in the Mediterranean".

-- http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/anti-immigran...

(Also, how had no-one registered the "patreonsucks.com" domain before now?)

You don't even have to go that far, there's a contradiction on that very page:

> Allegedly, I was “raising funds in order to take part in activities that are likely to cause loss of life.” Despite this being not even remotely true,

> I love getting to cover the dangerous ideas and stories I do, and I can only do it thanks to the amazing support I continue to receive

Seeking danger = likely to cause loss of life.

I'm also really confused. There's a picture of a woman, a signature "Lauren Southern" but text in the reward saying "you can tell your friends I’m your boyfriend" and "© 2017 dave cahill" in the footer.

Heh! I wouldn't go quite that far. I think "dangerous ideas" is being used in a countercultural or anti-authoritarian sense in that sentence, not a physically hazardous one. Dangerous ideas (e.g. Bitcoin?) are fine when they aren't intersecting with killing people.

Hmm, the submission should be flagged

You are confusing the literal definition of dangerous with the figurative definition. "dangerous ideas and stories" !=== risk to life e.g. http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/sciencenotfiction/2010/09/...

To address your confusion on the last question: There is some back story; she changed her gender to male a while back. https://youtu.be/gGpZSefYvwM?t=2m6s

I love it. so she wants to get in the way of people helping others in a risky situation but that it could cause loss of life is "not even remotely true"? it's great how we always represent ourselves in these absolutes and extremes now even though the reality is always more in the middle somewhere.

No, she wanted to report on it. It's great how we make false claims about other people.

She purports to be a journalist; she wanted to document the boat ride, not participate as a supporter. Here is her full explanation: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rtImwK5TI4g

> Big liberal silicon valley companies

Stopped taking it seriously there.

Patreon has been the biggest boon to content creators on the Internet - especially those creating content for YouTube - in quite a long time. Something tells me the whole story isn't here.

She has a video describing it, too. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rtImwK5TI4g&t=0s

Pretty interesting, nevertheless.

Is it really true that to support random podcasts with patreon that:

  * you can't have a one time payment
  * entry level is $1 a month
  * patreon takes 35% of that?

1. You have to subscribe but you can cancel after a single payment, some creators even recommend this for their higher tier "rewards".

2. Yep.

3. Nope, no idea where you got that number from. Between subscribers and creators, there are 3 fees: Payment gateway (~2% I believe), Patreon (5%) and transfer from Patreon to account ($0.25 for Stripe, 1%/$20 for PayPal, $3 for Payoneer). An absolute maximum of 10% seems closer to reality, with the average being more like 7%. Source: https://patreon.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/articles/204606125-How-...

If the minimum payment transfer is $0.25, then the minimum take is 25%. Seems pretty insane to throw a $1 a month to a producer and have 25% of that end up with patreon.

That doesn't go to Patreon, that goes to the payment processor and applies to the entire withdrawal, not individual patron contributions. If you have 1000 people contributing $1, you withdraw $1000 and pay $0.25 total to withdraw it.

And since I can't edit my other comment, I'll add that if you can find any payment processor that can do transfers for less than that, I'd like to see it. I don't work for Patreon but I am a Patron and I'm pretty happy with it and the creators I support seem to be too.

The two websites have similar navbar and footer.

[1] http://imgur.com/a/4rUd0 [2] https://www.davecahill.com/

Yes that caught my attention too, possible scam?

Presumably he's her boyfriend or just a friend and made the site?

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