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Ask HN: Which companies are considered to have the best engineers in 2017?

I hear terms like "developers", "coders", "resources" and all these kind of stuff when companies talk about us. So I don't think any company has brillant "engineers" per se. They maybe have excellent algorithm solvers on a whiteboard. Google, Facebook, etc.

To be contrarian, I'll point toward financial engineering (not retail or I-banking and such) such as Renaissance. It takes some pretty crazy and smart people to dig into FPGAs and HDLs trying to write what would normally be CPU based algorithms while focusing upon latency and availability as well when so many dollars are in motion. The industry's secrecy habits make it hard to get a fair assessment, but I've never heard of anyone incompetent at such a place while I've heard gobs of stories of incompetent people at large tech companies.

Plus they much much better compensated compare to the typical Silicon Valley company

My vote is Epic Games. If you look at UE4 changelogs, the amount of productivity is staggering.

Core engine programming is no joke either, let alone on a commercial engine used by half the industry.

There are no "best engineers". There can be, however, a "best engineer" for the specific stage the company is at. The typical higher echelon engineer that you'll find at the Big 4 will not necessary thrive at a early-stage startup.

My person & abritrary list of companies I consider to be 'above' the Big 4:

Stripe

Two Sigma

SpaceX

Maybe AirBnb & Netflix?

Google is certainly one company that's traditionally had that reputation.

Joel Spolsky always seemed to have an aptitude for attracting great people to Fog Creek Software. See joelonsoftware.com for a treasure trove of knowledge if you somehow have never heard of him.

I think a better question would be which company has the best environment for engineering? I see a lot of smart people with a lot of potential working on crap projects.

I imagine this depends on how you define "best". The most impressive/challenging work right now is probably in AR or self driving cars. If "best" is based on code quality or productivity, well, that's kind of subjective.

The most glamorous right now might be AR and self-driving, but most challenging I think undersells the difficultly of problems distributed across virtually all of software engineering.

In my opinion, Google and Apple.

FYI. Big Four = Google, Facebook, Amazon and Microsoft

I'd guess Stripe, Palantir and AirBnB would be up there too.

People are downvoting you for including Palantir, which has a reputation of over-inflating the quality of its engineers, and consistently choosing big name schools over experience.

I don't know if it's true, when I interviewed with them they seemed very interested even though I only took 3/4 years of a cs degree, and graduated with a different degree from RPI. I'm just explaining their reputation.

blizzard valve bethesda are probably really high up there the smartest guy i knew at university went to work at blizzard he just made everyone around him look bad

> he just made everyone around him look bad

An example of why this is so subjective. For me, the "best" engineers make everyone around them look better. Like the star athlete that elevates the level of play of their teammates.

One of my best friends in university was top-ranked in our class for every year (although they discontinued the rankings shortly after my class finished). Just a brilliant mind but without any of the social awkwardness you might expect to accompany that. He would literally hold unofficial study tutorials where he taught other students the course material. And it's not like he did this because he thought he was awesome - the other students begged him to because he could explain concepts better than some of our own profs.

I've looked @ Blizzard jobs and they pay remarkably low. They consider it a privilege to work there. Supposedly it gets better after 3-5 years of proving yourself. Just seems like your typical enterprise position.

The best engineers are probably working in academia doing research.

I doubt even the academics would agree with that one.

I generally think of these folks as scientists and engineers doing work in the real world.

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