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> We built Quilt to bring package management to data.

No, you built Quilt to own the data. Package managers don't make users pay if they want their own package repositories.

> so that analysts can spend more time analyzing and less time finding, cleaning, and organizing data.

You should spend more time with data analysts then. You would understand that cleaning, filtering and preparing the data is actually part of data analysis. I would refuse to do any work on data that was pre processed without having the exact list Of what was done to the raw data.

Honestly all I see technically speaking in this project is a python program to download data frames... Woo-hoo. And for the business side, the now usual attempt to own a community of users and their data. Boring.

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Namespaces are free. Public repos are free for unlimited data. Should we run a charity and also make private date free? :)

We understand that cleaning/filtering/preparation are key to the analysis, and we plan to support those operations as part of package construction. The question is whether or not that work should be done repeatedly, or once for the benefit of your collaborators.

You can store any kind of data in Quilt. Not just data frames. What's on Quilt today is just the beginning of what is possible.

Do you also dislike GitHub? We've opened up the client source and the community for as much free data as people can publish. It seems naive to expect that we wouldn't charge for anything ever. The users always and forever control their own data, by the way.

I'm not criticizing the price here. It is obviously totally OK to pay for data hosting.

> "Contact us to start Business or On-premise service." I DO reject the whole concept of having a "hosted-only" software. To me it makes the whole project useless. It means I cannot have my own private or confidential data. I cannot use it in my company, etc. More importantly, the data is not mine anymore. It's yours.

I cannot find any place on your website that explains what happens to the data once it is uploaded! As far as I'm concerned, it means I am giving you my data, for free, without any restriction on your side. You can resell it, modify it, rebrand it, prevent me from accessing it. Since there is no mention of how the data is stored, I also cannot know if the data is encrypted on your side, or have the capability to read everything that is uploaded.

We need to clarify the EULA and terms on the website. The data belongs to the users and we want to keep it that way. Quilt is not "hosted-only". The whole point of the on-prem install is that customers can run Quilt on their own infrastructure (it's Dockerized, etc.). We'll roll out a more formal on-prem solution as the project evolves. We're doing one thing at a time right now :)

> "The data belongs to the users and we want to keep it that way." Does it mean you plan to include in the EULA that Quilt will not parse, read, sell or otherwise use the data that users upload?

> "The whole point of the on-prem install is that customers can run Quilt on their own infrastructure (it's Dockerized, etc.)."

Yes, and on premise is not possible at the moment, and on the website it is marketed the same a business use.

Anyway, I lost my cool a bit on previous comments, thanks for keeping yours, and good luck :)

> Package managers don't make users pay if they want their own package repositories.

Isn't that npm's business model?

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