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At the least Nice site for any one looking to see a symphony example. I don't use symphony and despite liking most of the code I still hate the idea developers hand typing routes and that's my main selling point for something barebones like code igniter or some other automated routing process like a json-rpc API that can figure out what controller to go to on it's own.

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I disagree. That's too magic for my liking. I like Laravel's routing solution where you have to manually map a route to a controller action. You can set route groups and restrict middleware to specific routes and stuff so pretty powerful!

Laravel's routing and the entire framework makes it impossible to go back to CI.

That's what I like about Symfony. It's all in my hands to configure.

I don't understand that philosophy. Isn't the ideal that the default is something sensible and you only change it if you want different behavior?

and when you need to rename a single route you do what, rename the whole controller and/or method?

exactly, that's the downside to it.

it's really nice to have /controller/method/param/param routing out of the box, so the speed of 0 to MVP is quick, but on the other side, renaming a route sucks. unless you have a list of overrides in which case, may as well just use hand written routes from the get go

I guess you can use a micro framework, I Use silex. They're much less opionated. It's built with a synfony components so it's very similar (I think it's the same people).

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