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Intel Xeon Scalable Processors

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19 pointsrbanffy16 comments

Wow consider the following word salad:

"The Intel® Xeon® Scalable platform provides the foundation for a powerful data center platform that creates an evolutionary leap in agility and scalability.3 Disruptive by design, this innovative processor sets a new level of platform convergence and capabilities across compute, storage, memory, network, and security. Enterprises and cloud and communications service providers can now drive forward their most ambitious digital initiatives with a feature-rich, highly versatile platform."

I think that's running at 16MBWS (mega-buzz-words-per-second)

First we had Microsoft talking about a full up ARM version of Windows 10. We've had the number one compute platform people using being their phone for a while now so ARM is winning there.

Second we had the interesting rush of new i9 chips when AMD announced Ryzen and its family of enthusiast CPUS.

Then we had Intel pulling back from their attempts to extend into the emerging IoT market, and discontinuing their entry level 'appliance' Atom line.

And now we've got a nearly incomprehensible mishmash of stakes being thrown down everywhere in the data center to describe data centerness?

From where I am reading I see a company that is in full on existential panic.

Where is a table of the actual specs? I swear their web site is just a bunch of circular links.

Try this PDF (page 9):

https://www.intel.com/content/dam/www/public/us/en/documents...

Interesting how AMD differentiates over only raw performance (eg: clock rate, cache size, core count, etc) whereas Intel still differentiates on hard-hitting features (ie: HyperThreading and OmniPath both cost extra).

I think this will definitely hurt them as it strictly enforces market segmentation, however it's probably not that big of a deal for those that consistently buy Intel in bulk. They're clearly not that concerned about AMD flanking them.

I believe Omnipath is a separate on-package chip, so it actually does cost Intel extra to include it.

Anandtech: "Sizing Up Servers: Intel's Skylake-SP Xeon versus AMD's EPYC 7000 (anandtech.com)"

http://www.anandtech.com/show/11544/intel-skylake-ep-vs-amd-...

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=14746055

This isn't a product announcement FYI.

This is Intel letting us know they're changing their naming scheme.

Xeon E7-XXXX = Xeon Platnium

Xeon E5-XXXX > $1k = Xeon Gold

Xeon E5-XXXX < $1k = Xeon Silver

Xeon E3 = Xeon Copper

Saved you a click. Their making this change for the new Skylake-EP lines which have been rolling out _slowly_ as their preferred partners (Google, Amazon, Microsoft) get first pickings.

If your interested in benchmarks the Skylake-X consumer CPU's are the same micro architecture and there are Gamer/Work station oriented reviews.

Honestly when comparing processors I think everyone uses their ARK app because no one can remember very well the numerical numbering system. This is a welcome improvement.

I am so relieved I am not the only one who gets confused by Intel's naming/numbering scheme.

So the most expensive Xeon Platinum processor costs $13,000 each.

Looking forward to their Diamond series starting at $50,000 per processor...

Intels response to AMD throwing in all the free silicon features for.. well, free.. is yet more market segmentation?

Judging by the wafer presented, the die is huge. These things seem to be in a segment above AMD right now.

AMD just packages several dies. Threadripper will have 2.

That creates some complications for signal propagation

At multiple GHz large die also creates complications. And it is also problematic for yields, hence $13k price for one of the top SKUs

Indeed. I suspect a lot of those 13K are not the profit margins...

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