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How Divvy got to #1 on reddit for just $14

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Always do this.

If you sell software, your marginal cost to produce one more unit is zero. I give away free licenses to all the products I sell to pretty much anybody who takes the time to write with a hardship story.

Usually, you just gain one devoted fan for life who will tell everybody he knows how cool you are for hooking him up with a free license. Every once in a while you score big like these guys did.

And incidentally, the title of this post is wrong. At no point did Divvy spend $14 or even pass up the opportunity to earn $14. The total cost of this for them was the time taken to write that email.

I'm curious, does this ever snowball into a bunch of people emailing in with hardship stories asking for free licenses? It seems like it would, and that's the standard counter-argument: "If we give it to you, we have to give it to anyone, and once people realize that licenses are free if you email us, we'll never sell another copy."

I've done this for four years. People never seem to catch on, most of the people who email for free licenses are downright apologetic about it, and in four years I've only felt like I was being taken advantage of maybe twice with regards to free copies. (And I gave them, of course.)

Explicitly asking for something in return would probably be a good idea for me. Most of my customers tell me that they'll tell their friends, which makes me happy but empirically does not do much for the business since they're going to tell a single digit number of people who have no money, and the conversion on that is terrible. I should really tell folks that I'd love if they mentioned it on their class homepage or something.

The awesome thing about running your own business is that you don't have to do anything if you don't want to.

I make a point of giving out free Twiddla subscriptions for educational uses (on the assumption that students eventually become young executives who have to sit in a conference room while people in suits waste an entire hour trying to get WebEx to work at all, and might theoretically chime in about this cool online thing they used in school that just plain works.)

Anyway, that promise is in writing on the website, and I get to field a dozen requests a day (and the subsequent stream of thank you mails that come back), but every once in a while somebody will write in asking for a free license to run their online tutoring business. I don't feel bad at all pointing those folks to our API page and explaining how they can get their site up and running as soon as they buy a subscription.

So no, if you give it to one person you don't have to give it to everybody else.

> So no, if you give it to one person you don't have to give it to everybody else.

However, if you give it to someone, you have to give (same) it to the US govt.

It's illegal to charge the US govt more than you charge anyone else.

You can always use your judgement - there doesn't need to be a policy of giving your product away for free. If you detect that the requests have become too frequent or you start getting many similar requests, its easy to respond with a friendly email that doesn't give away your product.

This is exactly what my concern would be. Those who end up paying end up feeling a bit like suckers.

Usually when things are comp'd they are done on the lowdown.

And that might be more than $14. But your point still stands.

If this was a PR stunt, thumbs up. If it wasn't... thumbs up anyway :)

Direct link to screenshot: http://i.imgur.com/rejpI.png

A request for student pricing to Panic was denied last March :(

It would be awesome if more smaller dev companies remembered what it was like to be college students.

http://imgur.com/46bQA.png

Divvy seems like a neat utility, too, at least for my taste in window management tools. I've been using Cinch (drag windows to top or sides of screen to cinch to full or half screen size - http://www.irradiatedsoftware.com/cinch/), but I think I'll give Divvy a try.

SizeUp (also by irradiatedsoftware) is like cinch but with hotkeys instead of mouse management. It handles full, split, vsplit, quarters, multi-monitor, and multi-"space". I've been using it for a while now.

Divvy has an edge with the customizable zones; the 66/33 split from the video is a good example. SizeUp has the edge by being 100% usable mouse-free OOTB.

So, that's a pretty cool story. The feedback loop on these sorts of things is insane. Does anyone have any anecdotes of this sort of thing that don't result in #1 on reddit (or something similar!).

Also - does anyone know of a program that does this for Windows?

It's masterful negotiation once you realize that the user had already demonstrated that $9 had more utility than the time it took to write the email. Further, he demonstrated loyalty to the product and a lack of shame. Sounds like the perfect WOM advertiser.

Was the original emailer telling Divvy that he won't pay $14 dollars for something that continues to have pop-up ads? Or was he saying he can't pay the $14 dollars (and the price was quoted on a pop-up)?

Apparently the only difference between the unregistered and registered versions is a pop-up. The OP was telling Divvy that removing the pop-up was worth $5 to him, but not $14.

Can someone explain to me how giving away "free" licences with strings attached is good PR? Makes me skeptical of the integrity of someone recommending their product.

The good PR comes from harnessing somebody's enthusiasm for the product (how many people have you ever seen bother to make this kind of contact?) rather than turning them towards the 'Buy' page and ending it there.

The guy could easily have taken the licence and done nothing. Instead, he got it to #1 on reddit. Seems like a good PR move to me.

The only obligation was whatever was perceived by the licensee. The email was carefully worded so that it was clear that the license was free and clear, and, oh, by the way, it would be nice if you...

For all we know they've done this a hundred times and received only "kthxbye" in return (but that's a valid response!).

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