Ask HN: Alternatives to Gmail that are new, cool, etc?
Curious if people use any personal email tools. I like gmail but also realize I haven't looked for an alternative in several years.
I don't have to worry about my emails being scanned to create a profile of me.
I got my <firstname>@fastmail.com which I could not with Gmail.
As a paid customer I get support for if/when something is wrong.
Has solid Web UI that is minimal and fast. Email client for ios works great.
Cons: Not the cool new thing. Setting it up for shared calendar with others was a bit unintuitive.
Every now and then someone sends me a Google Doc, and I need to think about how to open it without a Google account.
Spam filter is not as good as Google's. A phishing email gets to the inbox every now and then. But, I report them.
Don't be <firstname>@fastmail, be <firstname>@<lastname>.me - or whatever you prefer.
My email is josh@josh[dot]micronesia. When someone — such as a banker, or "everyday" person — asks for my email address, I overwhelmingly hear, "josh at josh dot m n at... what? gmail dot com? yahoo dot com?"
What I have problems with are old html/js forms not accepting it for one reason or another.
50%?
2) we share surnames
3) yes, why not?
Say your last name is Zhang. Do you start an email thread with the other 100 million people named Zhang?
What if your last name is Nike? Mills? Ford?
What can I do against this scum? I saw that there have been many successful disputes against him so I was thinking of constructing one in a similar vein saying that his use of my unique last name to serve malware and ads is damaging to my reputation but it seems a little weak.
Also no other TLD is even an option for an email address because people always assume you made a mistake and just send things to .com anyway in my experience.
[1] https://medium.com/@N/how-i-lost-my-50-000-twitter-username-... [2] https://thehackerblog.com/the-io-error-taking-control-of-all...
This is stuff like having support@my-domain.com addresses that forward onto our Helpdesk, etc, that really need to work reliably.
Google docs is pretty amazing for collaboration and accessibility, just don't put your secrets in there.
2. I guess that's nice, whether worth $30/year though is a different question... you can just as well get your own domain entirely and forward through it.
3. Do you ever need support though? I haven't with Gmail (at least nothing major enough to care about; I do see random bugs every now and then)
4. Gmail UI is pretty amazingly solid too (do you not find it so?), just not that fast (but then again that's why there's a mobile and basic version, and an app, etc.).
I think you mistook $30/year for $30/month.
Gmail's UI was the best thing I ever used... Until FastMail.
That looks like any other Electon-based email client that someone decided wasn't cool enough any more...
The only issue I have with Superhuman right now is that there isn't 100% feature parity with Gmail yet; however, that's quickly improving with each release.
Disclaimer: I'm friends with an employee at Superhuman.
I work for Zoho Mail, so I may be slightly biased here but I would recommend Zoho Mail :). Let me try to convince you about why you should move to Zoho Mail. 1. Privacy - We are a 100% ad-free email service. We always have been and always will be. We don't scan your emails for keywords, we don't show ads, anything. We are 100% committed to maintaining your privacy.
2. Cost - We have a free plan that is free for up to 25 users. Through our referral program, you can get another 25 users absolutely free. That's a total of 50 free users, which is plenty for most small businesses. Our free plan is perfect for that. Above that, our paid plans start at $2/user/month. You can take a look at our pricing here - https://www.zoho.com/workplace/pricing.html.
3. Reliability - We have a 99.9% uptime guarantee for Zoho Mail, which is the industry standard. We constantly work on upgrading our infrastructure to maintain that reliability. In the odd event of a downtime, we have contingency plans in place for you to access your email.
4. Features - We are constantly innovating with email, to make it fit into the modern workplace. We've introduced a new feature called Streams, which is perfect for teams and combines slack like real-time collaboration with email. We also have a host of exciting new features for email.
5. Integrations - Zoho Mail is part of 30+ apps from the Zoho family. All our apps are well integrated with each other, and can be used to run your entire business from the ground up. In addition, we are also integrated with 3rd party apps like Dropbox, Asana, Trello, and more.
6. Migration - We make it easy and hassle free for people to migrate their email to Zoho Mail. It is free of cost, and there is absolutely no data loss at all.
To begin with, I recommend you try our free plan. All the features of the paid plans are available in Free as well, so you will get a clear picture of what Zoho Mail is. If I can help in any other way, please feel free to reach out to me at revanth@zohomail.com.
Thanks!
1. Ad-free, bloat-free, 1 Eur / month.
2. Privacy respecting, with clear transparency reports.
3. Support for IMAP/POP3.
As a nice addon they also recently launched a interesting VPN solution. Also headquartered in Switzerland with core infrastructure located in Switzerland and Iceland. No logging, and Tor routing is available with a single mouse click.
Anybody knows of a company providing such a service?
https://tutanota.com - https://github.com/tutao/tutanota - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tutanota
The company is based in Germany and benefits from BDSG.
Aside, IMAP and POP3 can guarantee end-to-end encryption. Since they aren't used to send your messages, just for you to fetch them from your provider, all you need is TLS and we're done. So it could be supported without compromising much of anything from a security perspective, though you'd lose the rest of the encryption features.
Personally, it feels like Google's spam filtering is still superior to the competition, so it would take quite a lot to get me to switch to a new vendor.
Not to mention the integrated action buttons that Gmail and Inbox have supported for years. Those buttons are a great productivity enhancement that I have yet to see from most of the competition.
I have also coded some custom extensions to Gmail that make it more useful.
The most popular one I run is https://dndemail.com. It basically adds do not disturb to Gmail.
Work pretty well on any IMAP/SMTP mail client.
Just want to let you know, however, that we've changed our pricing, and now we are free for 25 users. We have a great referral program as well that lets you earn a further 25 free users, should you need them.
My only peeve is the confusing admin tools -- it is still Exchange on the backend, so there are a ton of features and settings that are simply in the way.
That's where I started looking at FastMail.
"All Internet service providers must retain the following data for six months:
type of the connections [...] and if known login data, address information of the origin (MAC-address, telephone number), name, address and occupation of the user and duration of the connection from beginning to end
time of the transmission or reception of an email, header information according to the SMTP-protocol and the IP adresses of the sending and receiving email application"
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Telecommunications_data_retent...
> As a participant in these discussions, we can confirm unequivocally that upon implementation, the provisions regarding data retention introduced by the BÜPF will exempt companies like ProtonMail and ProtonVPN which are not major telecommunications operators.
I applaud their privacy stance, but paying ranson money to hackers is a deal-breaker for me.
The magnitude of the attack would have killed most services, but ProtonMail managed to mitigate the attack and went as far as becoming their own ISP to prevent getting in this situation in the future.
My two cents on this making them a pretty rare company.