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> they are clearly exactly what the community rejects

aka. "HN herd mentality." It feels me with sadness when I see the same trend over and over. People who have different opinions on certain political/social matters are being silenced by this whole "community rejects" bullshit.

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Ok, forget "community" then. Point is, there is no agreed "The opinion of HN" in dead comments.

dead comments are not representative in general of HN since the downvotes/flags outnumber the upvotes/vouches.

That presumes all members vote & have down vote privilege: which is not true in either case.

depends on what you consider to be a member. If there wasn't a karma cap, it'd be easy to sock-puppet-fake the votes.

This is an excellent point. Sadly, people who share less popular opinions will (probably) never get to the point when they can start up/down voting. So the only way to get these "superpowers" is to join the HN circle jerk.

That's only True if you constantly make unpopular opinions, such that they outweigh your regular ones. There are all sorts of neutral comments that can be made, a point a piece..

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