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Macron's tech visa is designed to make France better for startups than the US

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27 pointsIsaakTech9 comments

Lol,

Start by eliminating all these useless laws and regulations that make entrepreneurship a nightmare, start lowering taxes on small businesses and start-ups then we'll talk. In France you will get taxed well before making your first cent of revenue.

Italy has the same hostility toward small businesses. Legislation is way too favorable to large companies and incumbents. Until that changes, it'll take more than a visa to be a magnet for startups.

Its not hostility... Its how do you think your streets, and roads, and all the other things that created your modern society are paid for. Anti Tax is a sham. You want to just avail of everything free and not chip in for it? Would you rather be nickle and dimed for every single thing?

They don't have property taxes, vehicle licensing fees, or gasoline taxes?

Is this how you would fund the military and healthcare?? with property and gasoline taxes? how amusing.

Excessive tax is a burden, fair enough. But "Tax is theft" fetishism is just a lack of the reality of how civilization happens and avoidance of societal responsibility.

If you don't want to pay tax you should be micro charged for every single little thing you do, and pay private prices for all your "Services"

Well, plenty of countries manage on VAT, tariff, excise and lots of other taxes... again, it doesn't NEED to be income tax (frankly, I'm not a fan of property taxes, but it's a reasonable approach to local roads). Also, I don't feel that ANYONE should have more than half their income taken in taxes, period...

If a government can't manage to function on less than half the combined income of all its' citizens, it shouldn't be doing some of the things it's doing. As to the US, I feel the military should be cut dramatically, and that healthcare really should have included reform to medicare/medicaid and va medical. A co-op NPO would have been a better approach, allowing it as a baseline option to increase competition with private carriers.

Also, normalizing the laws between the states should have been a larger priority as well. Right now, inter-state carriers are pretty much non-existent as a direct channel.

That doesn't even get into the bullshit passive-aggressive laws regarding "women's health" from the right.

Just because I'm against raising taxes without cause doesn't mean I believe there should be no taxes.. and yeah, I wouldn't mind seeing purpose taxes closer to what they're being spent on. The layers of bureaucracy in a general income/vat tax at a national level only feeds systemic corruption, and over-spending.

That was my first thought... who is going into a country that will take well over half of any money made from a unicorn startup. The bar seems relatively low here too.

I'm not anti-tax, however I am against excessive taxes and encroachment. I don't feel that it's appropriate under any circumstances to tax more than half what anyone makes. As for "roads", that's what property, auto, and gas taxes are for.

Here's[1] the link to the actual French government page that talks about the visa in detail. I wonder how much of an impact this'll have since it requires the applicant to have a masters degree or higher.

[1] http://visa.lafrenchtech.com/4/french-tech-visa-for-employee...

It won't work. Fund raising like anything that involve a certain level of power is political in France.

I love my country but its qualities relies elsewhere. For example, in its healthcare system, in the transports or even in the nuclear industry (without endorsing it).

Its a cultural issue that started with Louis XIV and Versailles (the centralisation).

It's not a bad thing in itself. It's just a different path.

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