Albert Camus: A reconstructed conversation
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If you have some knowledge of French, you may try the original French edition - the style is simple and should be very accessible.
The story stuck with me for a long time and I was told it was much more accessible than many of his earlier books that were more philosophical.
It's a great story if you were ever the intelligent rebellious independent type growing up.
The human absurdity is very real in the modern condition. The challenges we face are so much more profound these days.
With Nuclear armament, AI and climate change, We are literally dealing with topics that frame the end of humanity, but we can't face it.
In the rebel, Camus teaches us that rebellion is probably a futile task.
Governments won't save us, so why riot?
Acceptance of absurdity gives us true freedom to create. Acceptance of systems stifles our ability to solve problems. Technology as a movement is heartening, as long as we continue to break it, reinvent it, hack it - in order to rescue ourselves.
Thanks for sharing this, made my day.
Because everything you're talking about, and all of the ideas in the posted article, basically deal with the top-most peak of Maslow's hierarchy:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maslow%27s_hierarchy_of_needs
There's still 90% of that iceberg beneath this surface, however.
In other words, human systems and institutions may be powerless to help you reach self-actualization, "save us", solve everything, make humanity endure forever, etc. However, you must be living a VERY comfortable life, free from hunger, health, and personal safety concerns, to wonder why humans bother to riot in some cases.
Because it's not about be-all end-all solutions to everything ("saving us") but claiming things we want to happen?
Like, e.g. stopping segregation? (Just to use a recent-ish example of effective protesting mostly would agree with its result)
Nobody, but that's beside the point. It's not supposed to be a seance, but a made up conversation (plus, the answers are adapted from the writer's own work).
A "discussion" with the writer similar to the way an author discusses with their ideas by reading their books and getting to understand their way of thinking.
>Certainly not with an absolute degree with confidence.
Yeah, but no such degree of confidence is promised -- or even expected from the readers to have. Approach this similar to how one would approach this guy's writing about Hemingway's Javascript preferences:
http://byfat.xxx/if-hemingway-wrote-javascript
Of course Hemingway didn't have any, and never wrote JS. But the idea is to put what we know about the author (and their preferences, beliefs, mannerisms, style, etc) and apply it to how they'd answer a question or how'd they do something like writing JS.
There's no absolute degree of confidence here either -- Hemingway, were he actually alive today at ~120 years old and interested in programming might surprise us all and opt for Angular. But from what we know, and to the best of our ability to interpret them, this would be his style (and "that would be what Camus would have said" in TFA case).
But it's good that you mentioned the Hemingway article, because the difference between that article and this interview highlights pretty well what's my issue with trying to "reconstruct" Camus from quotes. A living person is able to perceive as well as react to context. What questions have been asked, who's asking them, what is the level of understanding of the world, where we are ... these all might be grouped into "context", and the point is that they're all relevant in conversation.
Now, when a person takes up the mannerisms of someone else, it doesn't really detract from their ability of adhering to context. But when they're trying to "reconstruct" a person from things they've said at some point for the purposes of an interview, while trying to preserve those quotes to some degree, there can never be such a close fit between question and answer because each was made in different contexts.
Another way to look a it: what the author did is essentially search the Camus corpus for continuous segments of text which most closely fit his questions. But the answer which Camus would have most likely given could depend on discontinuous segments of text. This is actually pretty common in academic literature: whenever people are trying to reconstruct the meaning of certain concept, like Aristotle's "entelechy" or like Kant's "noumenon", sometimes we have to refer to different passages of the relevant corpus in order to get a clearer picture of what it might have meant. And there's an interaction between these passages, because they don't just heap over one another as in a concatenation of disjointed facts, but instead build upon another. The interaction between different passages might actually change the perceived meaning of individual passages. If there were a living person to answer these questions, whether it be Camus or just someone who really knows Camus, he already has these higher degree interactions in his head. He doesn't have the excerpts of text, he has the model which generates them. So if there's any question which might warrant a more subtle or complex answer, he'll able to do it. Maybe even a question which wasn't previously considered by Camus and for which we can find no immediately relevant passages in the corpus.
My issue isn't that this is some bit of necromancy, but rather that it is a Procrustean bit of necromancy. I wasn't skeptical because there's some degree of uncertainty either (though I think that in between chopping text and answering based on some model there would be less uncertainty regarding the latter), I was skeptical because I think this is an awkward and useless approach. It doesn't "reconstruct" anything, it merely deconstructs the Camus corpus.
There is a little something called an artistic license that people can tell when it is being used. This article is one of then. Learn to enjoy.
https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/25658482-at-the-existent...