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1. CEO is an ass.

2. Supports Booters, script kiddies, and pay-to-play blackhat hackers

3. Fucks over Tor any chance they can get.

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Proof for said allegations:

[Youtube video] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wW5vJyI_HcU

A: He continually berates because "he called and Brian Krebs never responded"

B: Cloudflare CEO states that the booters (ddos pay-as-you-go sites protected by cloudflare) don't even pay, or pay with stolen credit cards. And admits is "just a disaster".

C: Direct insult towards Krebs onstage "Well, who needs to actually ask questions as a journalist?" 48:08 [/Youtube Video]

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=12575047 look for user:eastdakota page text:"Yes, you can see Brian's critique of us here:"

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The exchange starts at https://youtu.be/wW5vJyI_HcU?t=45m17s

I'm not sure I see this from your perspective; multiple people in the crowd clap after your point "C", and much more clapping is heard when he sits down. If I were forced to classify the behavior (edit:specifically at 48:08) I would choose "smartass". The entire discussion is interesting in light of what happened recently with Uber/Kalanick.

I was listening to the booing, shouts of disbelief and guffawing (and clapping) when he gave his zinger about journalists.

He was invited on stage, and continually berates Krebs. He could have did that graciously, but instead continually insults. He admits that when the Booters do pay, they're paid with stolen CCs. And then, finally attacks Krebs' standing as a Journalist.

Uh, no. Absolutely not. No way, no how.

I'll deal with Google, Amazon, Microsoft.. Whomever for a CDN. I'm not touching CloudFlare.

My impression was the crowd's response was more of a "sick burn" (Krebs himself smiles and nods in this manner) rather than booing, shouts of disbelief and guffawing (and clapping). If anyone is seriously considering avoiding CloudFlare based on your summary of the interaction, I encourage them to view the video for themselves.

I personally appreciate the willingness to be true to oneself with a quick-witted reply rather than 100% PR-safe professionalism all the time. However, I don't mean to imply that your impression somehow should change or that you should change your decision! My world would be so much nicer if I could just avoid working with people that rubbed me the wrong way.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wW5vJyI_HcU&feature=youtu.be...

Perhaps you're right.

But the content is about if CloudFlare will kick off booters off their platform. And he defends them, EVEN after saying they don't even pay.

This isn't a "Should we let the KKK march in the streets?", or "Should $sexist group be able to spread propaganda?". This issue is directly about people who harm the fabric of the Internet, and the companies that knowingly allow it and continue to propagate it.

I get defending controversial things in terms of defending Free Speech. But these skiddies want to precisely use their "Free Speech" and actions to deprive others of it.

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