If I were a porn site, why would I want this address? Filters, parental controls, etc. are most likely going to block the entire .xxx domain - this would limit page views.
History has shown that .com is the most popular TLD - how is .xxx going to help? It seems like an attempt to drum up registrar dollars.
If you want porn, you know just how to get it; go to any xxx domain out there. If you don't want it, you know how to avoid a larger part of it; don't go to any xxx domain out there. Sounds like it works well to me!
No mandatory compliance would ever work, and there will always be porn littered all over these many internets, but .xxx domain will make at least part of it easier to access/avoid, according to the desires of the user and/or its guardians.
not true though; most of the existing porn will remain where it currently is. New sites might choose to start up with .xxx, existing big sites might buy the .xxx counterpart and keep their .com.
The end result is no reduction in non-.xxx porn, and some extra porn on .xxx. Totally pointless.
Usually the idea is to keep it away from children because children will willfully look at it without understanding. That page that says "Absolutely DO NOT look at this if you're under 18" has no relevance to an under-18 year old.
It's the same reason we put all other restraints on teenagers; if they were capable of detecting trouble and reliably refusing to participate therein, then they wouldn't need all of the things that are in place to protect them from themselves, foremost among these being parents.
No, you do not. There are services out there that assist in this.
http://www.cybersitter.com/ http://www.netnanny.com/ http://www.cyberpatrol.com/ http://www.asacp.org/
Couple this with parental controls in Windows and Mac (I'm sure it has it), and you don't have to know each domain.
> Assuming large-scale voluntary compliance, and I think the chances are good that all the "big" producers will move over, it's much easier to just filter the xxx domain and be done with it.
There already is voluntary compliance amongst the the big producers, as well as the smaller ones. There is no incentive to attract children.
These sites have already a vested interest in their current domains. Do you realize the cost involved with moving domains at the scale you are discussing? For what? To do what's already possible and being done?
I'd be more worried about sites that you wouldn't think to place in .xxx and yet are in many ways worse (looking at you, reddit!)
It's impossible to filter it all (maybe with strong A.I., but show me a porn filter that has that and I'll denounce this claim).
> It's impossible to filter it all
And?
.xxx won't change that. At all.
And I wasn't implying it will change the filtering problem. Merely pointing out that it isn't easy, which you implied quite strongly. Schools have been struggling with it since they started (magazines behind books), and paying companies like those large amounts of money for woefully incomplete solutions.
You're taking things out of context, and putting words in my mouth.
This is a discussion of the .xxx TLD. My contention is that .xxx won't improve porn blocking precisely because of the reasons you mentioned. There are already tools that do a lot of work to block it, and .xxx isn't going to change anything. The sites that would use .xxx are already blocked.
So, a porn sites are already blocked, and will use .xxx just to have it. It won't improve blocking. At the same time, .xxx won't block sites that don't play by the rules, and sites like RapidShare or Reddit, where you can find porn.
That's what I've been saying.
http://www.cybersitter.com/ http://www.netnanny.com/ http://www.cyberpatrol.com/ http://www.asacp.org/
Have you ever actually used any of these tools? They are horrible. They have a much worse cpu and network overhead than McAfee and aren't remote effective filters unless set to unreasonably restrictive settings.
Proxies working on pre-compiled blacklists and whitelists are a better solution and the new tld could only help with this. Even if only new pornographic site were ever given a "xxx" tld, then it would save the effort of having to explicitly blacklist them.
I admitted in my first post that you will never rid the internet of porn or make it completely unavailable to anyone. There is always a way around. But if the filter is good enough, unless the person is really determined, they will give up before they find its cracks.
Also, filtration is great for preventing an accidental stumbling-upon and so on.
A .xxx domain just makes sense, there's no reason not to do it. If you want to look at porn, you can find new sites by trying whatever, like, wallace_naked.xxx. You can filter for hyperlinks only to other .xxx sites. If you don't want to look at porn, you just blacklist the whole TLD and a great deal more work is done for you.
Again, you're right that there will still be porn on .com. I don't think anyone believes that's going to go away. But it's just a matter of simplicity; a .xxx tld helps everyone either way, so what's the problem?
I would be opposed to mandatory enforcement of this provision, but I think most legit porn producers will switch over for the citizenship points.
Filters will filter it, well-behaving search engines will get rid of the old results, and human-generated links will slowly change over.
You could have 'private mode' automatically engage when on .xxx sites.
I think it makes a lot of practical business sense to be able to unequivocably categorize your business.
Consumers might associate "a real .xxx grade site" with quality. But they will have to be trained.