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Intelligent people capable of negotiating their pay in a market such as that for software development would only be encumbered by unions. Are there warts? Sure there are. Nothing is perfect.

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Maybe have a look at the list here: https://www.tuc.org.uk/britains-unions

* Association of Educational Psychologists

* British Air Line Pilots’ Association

* FDA ("The union for senior public sector managers and professionals")

* Hospital Consultants and Specialists Association

* Prospect, the professionals' union

There are a lot more listed here: https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/public-list-of-ac...

And Norman Tebbit was the president of BALPA and for non UK the FDA is th union for V senior Civil Servants including MI6

That's an incredibly insulting and dismissive framing of the issue.

Unions are important in many industries, including software development. You and your employer may have a good method of negotiating your pay, but that doesn't make it universal

Belittling the presumed intelligence is completely unnecessary

But software devs don't have a professional structure either, as doctors, lawyers, and engineers do, and arguably the industry is the worse for it.

Are there warts? Sure there are. Nothing is perfect.

Isn't that equally true for collective undertakings?

Oh, come on. It has not been that long since we found out that major tech companies were colluding to suppress SWE salaries. Have you already forgotten?

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