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goes to demo …

clicks outside of Flash movie so that by Backspace works to take me "Back"

What exactly about SumoPaint is "Impossible" with HTML5? I find this page disgusting. It smells of desperation and tastes of deceit.

Edit: Complete lack of professionalism here. "let's you," "impossible to built," "todays reality."

Also: "This was made with Flash but you probably didn't notice." No, I did. I noticed when I had to whitelist the page in FlashBlock, and when I couldn't select the text in your footer.

Wow! nice flash-troll site.

One thing they forgot to mention, that their high-tech troll-site can't handle scrolling with mouse wheel(invented in 1995) when mouse cursor is on the flash content.

One question to these wise-guys: If flash is so damn ubercool and HTML(web) is so obsolete, then why didn't flash replace HTML(web) long ago?

The scrolling works just fine for me in Firefox. Each browser implements scroll events a bit differently though, so you have to implement some hacks to get around that.

I think you're forgetting that Flash has replaced HTML for many things that it does better.

The Flash platform still does not register scroll wheels on OS X. This is probably what DjDarkman was referring to, without necessarily realizing it.

It's possible to make that work. It works on http://listen.grooveshark.com on OS X in most browsers, it's just a matter of embedding the swf in wmode=window and writing some JS to force the browser to send the scroll events through to the swf in the right format.

http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=1423269

This was submitted 12 days ago and made the front page then.

Wouldn't it be nice if Hacker news discovered when this happens on its own, possibly preventing the link to be created or auto-linking to old/related posts?

People could still use the old ?resubmit=true tacked on the end to bypass that. But yes, it would be nice.

I thought HN did do that checking. Sorry.

What is this? I hovered the pointer over a link to see its target in the status bar, and it showed nothing. Yeah, blind-folded browsing, there is an app for that .. flash. Let's hope the web is gentle with me.

Let me add that I like flash, but please don't break the web by hiding links.

Apple and Adobe have started a strange comparison war. Too much focus on what you can "make", not enough focus on "why" one direction might be better than the other. I really don't care about HTML5 checkers vs. Flash checkers vs. Java checkers; which is going to make my online experience better today, and more importantly, in the future?

middle-click, waited, nothing happened :(

Now how can I open all those demos in new tabs?

I think the point is not "Hey, let's replace HTML with Flash!"

It's more of a "stop trying to make this canvas stuff done in HTML sound like it's better than Flash yet."

Then they really shouldn't have used Flash for the main content of the page rather than HTML (which is better suited than flash for this use case).

Do as we say, not as we do.

I hate Apple, but this is full of lies. All those things can be done with HTML5. Even Quake was ported to HTML5!

sure it can be done as long as you are using Chromium nightlies along with the --enable-webgl switch.

Now when can I use it with assurance that I can target every browser and the 90%+ of my visitors will be able to see it?

I love web standards, I want them to win, but we're just at the start of this race and web standards have a loooong way to go.

I keep right clicking to view source but it doesn't work. Does that mean Flash is “closed” and HTML5 is “open”?

I'd check this out, but Flash block effectively hit the entirety of the content.

flashlab is stuck in time by seeming to oppose html5 and favoring the crappy technology that is flash.

Fun demos. However they made my laptop's fan louder than it's ever been before.

Had to disable my flash blocker. Couldn't load it in Firefox - seems like my install of flash is borked there. Tried one flash demo, not bad. Tried another, it was loading for too long and I left. I have better things to do with my bandwidth than wait for flash.

It crashed my Chrome tab. Joy.

Remember back in time when your browser was much less prone to crashing?

Or when your entire browser crashed instead of just a single tab.

In the past we have a name for these kind of people: n00b.

But now time has certainly changed. People tends to like to post their crashing experience online.

Nobody's arguing that you should ditch Flash today, but the use cases for it will diminish over time.

Right now if you want cross browser 3D, video or animation then Flash is the way to go. But in 10 years time when all major browsers have consistent implementations of <video>, canvas, <audio>, webGL etc, etc then, sure use an alternative ;)

I love web standards but they move at glacial speeds, and user adoption is even slower.

Nobody's arguing that you should ditch Flash today

Clearly, you haven't spoken to my boss. ;)

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