Pirate Bay may finally be sunk after EU copyright ruling
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They don't care what the courts say or think. They've had founders get in trouble before, the site kept going. The servers were seized, the site kept going.
And after this... well the site will still keep going. That will never stop. People will always keep running torrent sites, and there will likely always be people from The Pirate Bay who'd set up their own version/fork/whatever the second it goes down.
In other words, this court ruling will mean nothing for it. They didn't care before, and they probably won't care now either.
What's the difference? Is it simply the size of the downloads? (Ebooks are only a few megabytes, so a single hobbyist can easily mirror the whole library these days.)
[1] - http://mobilesyrup.com/2015/04/22/hbo-says-it-will-terminate...
That being said, I'm no supporter of copyright law, and I think whoever depends on owning information to generate an income will have a very limited life span (decades, at most), since they're essentially fighting against technology. The Pirate Bay is extremely simple technology (web page+BitTorrent), and after a decade of fighting I can still access it because I don't use my ISP's DNS servers -- just imagine how long the next innovation will take to suppress in court.
[1] as far as contributory crimes go. A directory could directly violate something like privacy laws and it would be fine to take that down.
True laws are the intersection of legal and technically enforceable.
And in lieu of a globally-monitored and controlled internet, that's going to be far short of "we don't like your reference to a reference to a reference of this thing."
Laws are precise, but unlike the rigid systems we work with, ultimately there is going to be human somewhere who can classify events into buckets like "horse shit" and "not horse shit"
If warrant canaries were ever a real threat, what's to stop them from simply deciding that the only legal direct or indirect answer to "have you ever received a super duper secret subpoena" is "no comment".
The issue is not whether or not the concept of secret access to my data is just, it's whether or not you can actually play silly games with the party literally writing the rules to the game you're trying to play.
For a while, but not forever and in every case.
> If warrant canaries were ever a real threat, what's to stop them from simply deciding that the only legal direct or indirect answer to "have you ever received a super duper secret subpoena" is "no comment".
I think a lot of people would immediately break that law in protest. It would be interesting, to say the least.
For many, the mere threat for legal wrangling is enough to scuttle them as they can't afford the outage.
There have been at least one instance of someone getting their blog domain seized by the FBI because they were using .com, even though what they were hosting were MP3s the artists themselves had asked to be distributed, and neither the server nor the author were US based. RIAA had basically raised a stink and one day the domain was redirected to a FBI warning page.
Already, legal notions like jurisdiction are being pushed to their limits thanks to technology like the internet (look at the extradition case of Kim Dotcom), and things get even murkier with questions of copyright.
What is the difference between a forum (such as Reddit) where people can discuss magnet links/hashes (to news articles, and public domain works, and copyrighted works) and a forum called The Pirate Bay? If it's just the word "Pirate" in the title (as opposed to "The irate Bay", for example), then it seems that the law is very sensitive to single byte changes on a website, and the job of humans to classify these things into buckets rapidly becomes intractable.
We're back to "What Colour are your bits?" again: http://ansuz.sooke.bc.ca/entry/23
also, the story is still present on their UK website
https://arstechnica.co.uk/tech-policy/2017/06/pirate-bay-cop...