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In general, I'm glad Uber is getting their comeuppance, with all the shady things they've done, they are overdue.

On a personal note, having worked for a period with Travis at RedSwoosh, I think he's getting the raw end of this deal. He's a really great entrepreneur and a nice enough guy. He pushes hard but and plays to win; as the CEO, he's getting an inordinate amount of fallout from these issues. I would say he's not the root cause of the issues but he is the root cause of Uber's success. Uber will not be the same without him.

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Good guys(TM) have done a lot of damage. I've been through this; I had a friend whom I still like a great deal as a person, but who did a ton of damage in a different type of situation. It is hard to sort out.

But the fact remains, total assholes are capable of being ethical and moral, and the nicest person in the world can be a horrorshow.

Coming off as nice doesn't tell us anything about character, even though we are wired to feel otherwise.

He is the CEO, who has been caught red-handed being various flavors of deceptive, assholish, unconcerned with the externalities caused by his actions, not to mention several deeply unethical acts across years of time. That's before we get to the actions of his minions.

I have trouble understanding how you can credit him with success (which naturally means he "earned" his billions) while claiming he should be shielded from the fallout of his own and his reports' actions.

He may be getting an inordinate amount of fallout from these issues, but hes also getting an inordinate amount of the benefit in terms of pay and equity. You can't get the benefits and complain about the responsibilities

"I would say he's not the root cause of the issues but he is the root cause of Uber's success."

I can't agree with that statement. He's responsible for both. He doesn't get to take credit for the good and ignore the bad.

Are you saying it's impossible? Or just not fair?

Good or bad, you reap what you sow.

You do reap what you sow? Or you ought to reap what you sow?

I am going to say it's impossible. He is responsible for the company. That means both the good and the bad.

And his past actions have shown that's not far off; that he does behave in a manner consistent with Uber's bad actions.

Its very easy to talk about "problems" in the abstract. This happened under his watch - https://www.buzzfeed.com/pranavdixit/the-victim-in-ubers-ind...

Anyone with an iota of a moral compass would be able to understand whats wrong here. Travis wasnt able to.

I wouldn't be in SF running my company if Travis didn't decide to host this poor broke immigrant (me) at his house in 2009 (the JamPad) without asking anything in return. And like me, many others.

He is a nice guy, he helps people, and he has strong passion in hating the failure. Is Uber too aggressive? Maybe yes - but you need to be aggressive to fight regulations, governments, taxi cartels and the like all over the world.

In defense of Travis ... so interesting. would love to hear more. @Julie188

>I would say he's not the root cause of the issues

Who wrote the employee sex manual?

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