> it's hard to defend the idea that nothing of value can be made there
So you can provide examples of those "values"? But not mythical Soviet microwave ovens in 1941, please.
So you can provide examples of those "values"? But not mythical Soviet microwave ovens in 1941, please.
In a way, my answer to your question is "it depends". For somebody with "good enough" criteria of correctness I can provide examples.