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> I assume Google will try to replace Java with Dart

I would have expected this, but not after pushing Kotlin. Kotlin is shiny enough to temporarily distract the typical developer from the daily struggles with the abysmal Android API.

Kotlin and Java it will be for the next 10 years, for better or worse.

Dart is not very popular within Google itself, and Fuchsia is nothing more than a paid hobby project[0].

[0] See https://www.reddit.com/r/programming/comments/6a026o/googles... for a pretty damning review

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According to what Fuchsia developer Travis Geiselbrecht said in the public Fuchsia IRC channel,the OS “isn’t a toy thing, it’s not a 20% project, it’s not a dumping ground of a dead thing that we don’t care about anymore.”[0]

[0]https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2017/05/googles-fuchsia-smar...

Interesting link. One of the relies to the review of fuchsia gives a different view as to why there are inefficiencies in it:

..."All of the things you mentioned have known solutions making it easy to improve down the road."...[0]

[0] https://www.reddit.com/r/programming/comments/6a026o/googles...

Given the level of activity on [Fuchsia's project repos][0], I find it very unlikely that it's just a hobby project. That amount of activity is on-par with Android itself. If it is just a hobby, it's an extremely expensive one.

[0]: https://github.com/fuchsia-mirror

> Dart is not very popular within Google itself

I was under the impression that pretty much all the frontend work at google was compiled from Dart.

Only AdSense.

Isn't AdSense a pretty big deal within google?

Yes, the Ads organization is huge and has a large influence on front-end development in general at Google.

Dart is used for AdWords [0] and AdSense [1]. Both of which account for 89% of Google's revenue.

It's also used for Google's internal CRM (Greentea), and Google Fiber.

[0] http://news.dartlang.org/2016/03/the-new-adwords-ui-uses-dar...

[1] http://news.dartlang.org/2016/10/google-adsense-angular-dart...

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