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Oracle winds up killing another golden goose they aquired from Sun. That's what they do though. They buy innovative technology companies who have committed customer bases and then slowly squeeze all the money out of them until they can migrate off. By then they've aquired another set of victim customers.

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Not sure what you're rambling about.

Java is still and always will be the core language of the JVM. It isn't going anywhere and the Java team (comprising mostly ex-Sun people) continues to push the language forward under Oracle's fantastic stewardship. The issue is that Java is required to be more stable than other languages since it powers so many production, enterprise system and hence will be slower to innovate.

I have seen no widespread movement to jump from the Java/JVM ship if anything more and more people are moving towards it because of languages like Scala, Clojure, Kotlin etc.

I think the Oracle/Google lawsuit drove the decision to adopt Kotlin. Now Google is going to work with JetBrains to develop Kotlin and is going to fork the GPL JVM probably by not including things like the controversial project Jigsaw that IBM voted down. Meanwhile, Oracle is stuck with Java, just like they're stuck with OpenOffice, Hudson, etc.

Nah. What drove the decision is that huge swaths of Android development community already adopted Kotlin and it's trivial to implement it in existing Android codebases. It's also built by a company with which Google already has partnership with (IntelliJ built both Kotlin and IDEA IDE which is the base for Android Studio).

Yes, this is the only reason IMO. GP is reading too much into this.

Source: I closely follow all developments in the Android ecosystem, and have been doing so for over 2 years.

Jigsaw would actually help android. The entire reason Google went with their own implementation in the first place is to exclude certain APIs that were meaningless on android.

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