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"Active Hours" is such a stupid idea, too. I'm perfectly happy if my box has to reboot at 3am for updates, but I do actually make use of it in the morning as well as into the night, and as it shares some home-fileserver duties for the rest of my family, it gets used sporadically throughout the day.

In its infinite wisdom Windows won't let me set "7am-11pm" as active hours - it caps it at either 10 or 12 hours. So no matter what I set it to, Windows 10 updates will inconvenience me more than just about any other OS in the house.

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Seriously. Active Hours was such a terrible idea, how did it move past the design stage?

There were some hilarious hacks to disable the Update Orchestrator and prevent the reboots. They work well, although allegedly you should not need them any more with the new Creators Update OS refresh.

Why does the computer even have to ask what the active hours are? If anything knows when the computer is being used, it's the computer.

Amen

Isn't it partly because Microsoft laid off all the QA testers? As mentioned on Barnacules' video July 2014.

Upgrade to RS2 and select "pause updates" and just check for updates yourself as you're finishing up schedule it at your own time.

Yes because humans should work for computers not the other way around.

computers are customizable for a reason and software always requires human interaction to be updates/useable.. most people are OK with their iPhone updating itself and its apps and showing related apps -not sure why that's so hard for windows users to adopt.

Any process can be more or less usable. GP described a setup in which the user is responsible for noticing that updates are available. That is just terrible.

I don't follow. Windows 10 has an action center, it shows everything pending. If there are security updates and they're frozen or pending restarts they show up in there if you misted the toast notification. Nearly all OS's have the problems of security updates being hidden unless they're forced (like a phone). OSX you have to click update inside the app store, Linux you have to check apt-get / yum update or whatever it is you do, brew you need to "brew update" - humans need to be part of the equation in some fashion.

I think the biggest thing is that people should care about being secure.. care enough to check for updates and be a part of the community they choose to be a part of - be it Linux/windows/osx/android/whateverthe* you want

For what it's worth, as of 16.04 Ubuntu automatically installs security updates: https://blog.appcanary.com/2016/unattended-upgrades.html

In snapcraft, all updates are automatically installed: https://docs.ubuntu.com/core/en/reference/automatic-refreshe... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DLxqdf89hRo

only if you leave unattended on.. most server admins turn that off so servers don't change out from under config management.

yeah for me it was 10 hours. I just checked and with the creators update it now lets you set to 18 hours, but seems there's still no explicit way of "ask me to reboot"

I've never had Windows 10 reboot on me. I've always had to tell it to reboot, or choose an option to do so. Very different than previous versions.

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