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Wait — People are actually still using ST in 2017?

And here I was thinking Atom and VSCode had dominated the IDE/Editor environment

A colleague of mine really likes VSCode for Node, as it's more of an IDE than Sublime text. However, for text editing, outside of vim itself, I haven't encountered anything remotely as good as sublime text. Really. Why would I use Atom with all its slowness for most text editing tasks? And VSCode has more features than I need for text editing. Is it particularly pleasant to open a bunch of XML, JSON, YAML, etc files in VSCode?

Before Sublime, textmate was okay but I always liked BBEdit/TextWrangler for OSX best. Crimson Editor was the best thing I could find for Windows in the early 2000's, before I moved away from Windows environment.

When was the last time you used atom? I switched from sublime a few months ago and have been quite happy. The only thing I really miss is an easy Node.js build system. I probably just haven't figured out the atom equivalent.

I haven't tried Atom since one of its earlier releases. I haven't tried it again since the slowness seems to be the number one complaint. I figure when it's not the most common complaint, maybe it'll be worth another shot; I suppose if everyone is doing this and makes comments like my previous one, no one will actually ever try it again.

I don't understand this attitude. Atom's look/feel/functionality/default keybinds are based on sublime text. Sublime text is a lot faster/more reliable. Atom has a large community building addons for it.

Take your pick. I used atom until I got annoyed by how it choked on large files and crashed semi-frequently.

I feel the same way. I wanted to support the Atom project, but Sublime is super stable and has a ton of useful plugins.

There's nothing wrong with using multiple editors for different tasks. I'm currently using vscode after a stint with atom for the majority of my editing. But I use sublime text for scratch space or quickly opening large files or one off text files.

Atoms too slow, and I have never felt lacking for using ST, plugins give you linters, autocomplete, autoformatting (yapf, prettier), you can integrate git, though I prefer CLI.

ST just works, is blazing fast and I love its jump to and multiediting shortcuts

Atom and VSCode are the new (and newer) hotness in programmers editors, which means they dominate trend-driven discussion. But they probably don't dominate use, even in the sub-IDE editor segment.

What is so hard to get people? VS Code and any other Electron based software is too slow. It is not performant at all. First of all, UI responsiveness is just not on par with native editors, second, the entire thing absolutely croaks, especially search, with a large code base. It's not as bad as Atom, but still not usable.

I know those of you who love VS Code are not working with large projects. You could argue that you can load up your project in a more modular way, or search just parts of your projects, not all files, but then you've lost a lot of functionality, and you might as well use another piece of software which actually handles a large code base.

I don't understand why there is any reason to move away from ST

Atom is free (as in beer). To be clear, I think ST is a better product but I am telling you why people might move away.

Atom and VSCode are also open source and are (currently) receiving updates much more frequently.

The ST3 dev builds are VERY good. I love Atom but the speed keeps bringing me back to ST.

I've been happy with VSCode, far more so than I was in trying Brackets and Atom... and with the plugin model, I think it's better than ST from usability... Though I wish some of the config stuff was more in the box instead of editing JSON files directly... that said, the features are very rich in the box, and plugins have been great.

Pycharm is very popular.

The 2017 refresh is especially blazing fast and high optimized for low latency input

>Zero-latency typing is now on by default: typing latencies for PyCharm 2017.1 are lower than those for Sublime Text and Emacs

https://blog.jetbrains.com/pycharm/2017/03/pycharm-2017-1/

Remote deployment is the killer feature for me at this moment.

It doesn't only works in remote machines, but in docker as well. It's a killer feature. You can have nice UI of OSX and be as close as possible to the deployment platform.

People are still using Vim and Emacs, too.

Some of us even use both.

Atom is extremely heavyweight and slow

I like Atom and VSCode, I wouldn't REALLY call them an IDE.. Try Jetbrain's stuff out.

despite it being an electron application, I prefer Atom over Sublime, because 1) It's FOSS 2) it was easier to configure for Python 3) It takes the best parts of Sublime without requiring C#

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