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Too many words! This is my most common criticism for evaluating an interface. If you need so many words on the home page to describe how to do something or what it is, then it's not easy enough. Remember you only have about 20 seconds of somebody's attention before they decide to click away. I got lost pretty quick (and I'm actually pretty smart).

The crap about Jesus on the about page turned me off, too. You're welcome to your religious beliefs, but keep them on your blog or someplace more appropriate.

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why does Jesus make you and others so angry?

I will bet $10 that if instead, it were a short para on Hinduism or Buddhism (and I dare say, even Islam), no one would have been so hostile.

No one here is offended by your religious beliefs. They just don't have a place on a commercial website, unless you are providing a service only for a group of like minded people and then done right your comments may even be welcome.

"They just don't have a place on a commercial website"

why not?

Because they turn many people away. You asked for our feedback and several people made a big deal about it. Listen to us, trust us, your project needs all the help it can get. Don't make more reasons to turn people away.

Here is why I put that controversial paragraph:

"Whoever acknowledges me before men, I will also acknowledge him before my Father in heaven. But whoever disowns [is ashamed of] me before men, I will disown him before my Father in heaven." [Jesus]

http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Matthew%2010:32-...;

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As an intellectual person, I find blind faith in Christianity outright offensive. It doesn't make any sense to base your world view on the mythology of a Bronze Age people.

Honestly, I'm glad that you have the right to spread the good word on your website. But it's so rare I get to interact with a real, live Christian that I delight in the opportunity. Maybe we can both gain something.

So let's talk. Why do you believe in the god of the Christians to the exclusion of all the others?

why do you believe that 2+2=4 and not 2+2=5 ?

Because I count two things, and two more things and see that there are four objects. I can observe with my own eyes that mathematics works. You can't ever see God, you have to take on faith that a book written almost 2000 years ago is absolute fact.

So why do you believe in the god of the Christians to the exclusion of all the other gods?

You obviously pride yourself on being an intellectual, yet you havent even scratched the surface. Think deeper.

The answer lies in the answer to my question.

Fine. Mathematics is generally based on so-called "non-logical axioms" -- non proven statements that we accept based on what a person such as yourself would call faith.

Still, I believe in mathematics because it works. Why do you believe in the god of the Christians to the exclusion of all others?

You're getting the point - that we trust Mathematics even though it involves faith, because there is plenty of correlation to the 'real' world.

Similarly, Jesus is a real person, not an emotional crutch. An absolute truth, not a relative choice. Like 2+2=4 and not 2+2=5.

How do I prove it? Simple. Ask Jesus himself to show that he is real, to you. However when you ask, you cannot have an attitude - otherwise he will ignore you.

"you will seek me and find me when you seek me with all of your heart" [God] (http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Jeremiah%2029%20:%2013;&version=31)

He himself, will checkmate you.

Neither introspection nor emotional experiences reveal truths about external reality. Emotional experiences carried out in the meat computer mounted on top of your torso do not provide any supporting evidence for the existence of Jesus.

Far from it. I am not talking about "introspection nor emotional experiences". If Jesus is real, then he will show that he is real, to you, if you ask without an attitude.

It will not always be in the same way.

http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Acts%209:1-6,%20...;

But you still never answered the question of why you have faith in the Christian god as opposed to the gods other religions.

I did.

I don't understand how you answered it. Can you clarify?

I read that people dont want to click, but scrolling is ok - I thought that was the lecture at startup school? (I saw a breief note on it here on this site)

the condensation is at the diagrams on the right.

Should I move the diagrams left?

I am stubborn about Jesus; even though I have lost a lot of good opportunities because of it.

I have no problem with scrolling ... but that doesn't mean you should try and cram more words on the page to explain what's going your website is about or how to use it. The harsh reality is that the vast majority of people won't make it through the first paragraph.

I don't have all the answers ... but try making better use of headlines, images/diagrams, or a quick demo. Somebody should be able to visit your site and quickly know what it is and the basics of how it's used. Juwo sounds like a cool idea, but I don't get that as soon as I hit the homepage.

Some examples of homepages that I like that do a good job of conveying the idea/service in less than 20 seconds (I have no affiliation with any of these): http://writewith.com/ http://basecamphq.com/

I have reorganized the page.

my website is updated. Please visit again.

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