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Opera 10.6 - HTML5, and then some

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36 pointsUncle_Sam20 comments

Hopefully appcache support will be used to make Dragonfly start instantly (they haven't added manifest https://dragonfly.opera.com/app/ yet).

i just want geolocation in opera mini. To many people that use my web app are using from opera mini and I have to tell them to go to the phones default browser. (Hate doing that)

What I love about Opera, is that they develop and release features that show up in other browsers like Firefox 6 months to a year later.

Sorry, this is just wrong.

I am currently working on a drag-and-drop uploading tool, and would really like to use html5 to do it. The new interfaces involved are the drag and drop (http://www.whatwg.org/specs/web-apps/current-work/multipage/...) and File (http://www.w3.org/TR/file-upload/) APIs. Unfortunately, everyone except for Firefox have been slow in implementing the File interface, leaving me with a situation where the only shipping browser where standards-based code runs is Firefox 3.6 (fwiw, it works in Webkit nightly and Chrome 6 dev). In shipping webkit (safari 5, chrome 5), File is implemented (which gives meta data about a native file) but not FileReader (which gives the actual data) (btw if someone knows of a non-standard way to get the data from the File object in shipping webkit please let me know, i just want this to work. FF had a non-standard getAsBinary() method on the File object before FileReader was implemented, for example).

Opera doesn't even have File implemented.

Again, FF is the only shipping browser that native os-to-webapp uploading drags work in a standards compliant way. Give them some credit.

I'm not saying that FF or other browsers doesn't innovate. I'm just saying that I've seen tons of features that have started in Opera that end up implemented in other browsers.

Although that may be true, all of these features, with the exception of WebM, are in a RELEASED version of Firefox (3.6), and WebM is also already in the developer prerelease (nightly builds) of Firefox 4 (the next version).

Just had to http://xkcd.com/386/ this one.

I believe what he means is that opera has been the first to bring in a ton new features which were later copied by other browsers (or still even yet to) such as

tabbed browsing

mouse gestures

tab thumbnails

page zooming

opera turbo

bookmark sync

first to pass acid 3

opera unite

Spatial navigation

HTML5 datepicker (currently the only one)

and the list keeps going. These are just some of the major ones.

Opera is still the only browser that doesn't support any method of making a script load asynchronously. Firefox was the first browser to support the HTML5 async attribute for scripts.

And also, afaik, the only browser that doesn't allow copying in HTML. So if you want to copy information from Opera and paste it in, say, Evernote or Onenote, you lose all formatting. I know some people prefer it that way, but since Opera is highly configurable I don't understand why they don't even make it optional to copy the HTML.

> "Bing is the new Speed Dial search engine"

Eugh

I think I may be the exception but i have never even used the speed dial search. I only use the main url bar.

g searchstring and i search google. y searchstring and i search yahoo. i have also made some for other sites such as stackoverflow s searchstring and i search SO.

so imo its not a big deal who the default is, with the exception of the main url bar default search.

I never use it either, and I'm also far more likely to use Bing than Ask. So, unless I'm also an exception, complaining about this is truly silly.

Microsoft is really throwing money at search lately. Bing is everywhere (Colbert, iOS 4, "Filomena", "Search Overload").

How long can they keep it up for the returns they're getting?

Decades. They're Microsoft.

And it's nothing new. They've been throwing money at the web and trying not to fail for years. No real success yet though (IMHO)

Only have to for a few more months until the Yahoo! deal is completed.

The default was Ask Jeeves, so not like it's a huge step down :)

One of my favorite little tweaks using opera is making Wikipedia the speed dial search engine. I've already got google up top, so having a wikipedia box every time I open a new tab pretty much accounts for 100% of my search needs.

As for bing, I don't plan on using it so... who cares?

well you can simply type "w" then your search in the address bar

I'm using it now, and Google is still the real default for everything else (search bar, etc.)

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