That's not a moral position, that's one branch of the conditional:
> if extreme techniques were viewed as likely to result in useful information
He's not arguing that torture is wrong, he's arguing that torture doesn't work.
> if extreme techniques were viewed as likely to result in useful information
He's not arguing that torture is wrong, he's arguing that torture doesn't work.
Maybe listen/read to his full response first?
But that just calls into question a person's character and it's going to be impossible to dig down and find a satisfying answer for everyone. So I'm not sure how fruitful this is.