It's time for legislators and the DMV to crack down on disabled parking cheats
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That said, I even caution against judging other people for their use of a disabled placard without an apparent motion disability. I had a friend who had nothing obviously wrong with him (I was friends with him for about a year before I even knew he had a disabled placard), but one day he gave me a ride and apparently felt the need to explain to me that he has MS, and that walking was quite painful for him even though he moved with an apparently normal pace and gait. Presumably there are many other reasons why an otherwise normal-looking person would have and/or use one of these placards, so I really think you need to come in with more than anecdotes about people who don't seem disabled.
As you've also mentioned, I can't stress this enough - you don't have to look handicapped to have a disability.
Some people with disabilities can walk - but with difficulty. Some people with disabilities can't walk very far. Some people with disabilities can walk most of the time - but sometimes, their legs go out from under them, and why-the-hell-should-we-not-just-give-them-the-handicapped spot?
Both my mother, and my mother-in-law have disabilities. They suffer through them - and if it weren't for my mother-in-law's cane, at first glance, you wouldn't know.
And it's also possible to legitimately park in a handicapped space with no handicapped person in the car. I've done it before--I was picking up the person to whom the placard belonged.
I look ok -- I can walk ok -- but only for about 50 yards before I fatigue. And it gets worse when the weather is hot. I too have MS. When people see me limping they assume I have a sporting injury!
Yes I am sure there are some that "cheat" but do not rush to judge. You never know!
I have never seen this anywhere else in the US, even in snowbird-heavy Tucson Arizona. Something is definitely different in LA, maybe it is just easier to abuse the system here? I don't want to judge, I didn't see any of these people get in and out of their cars (it was early in the morning), but...it definitely feels weird.
> Just inside the city limits, in Old Sacramento, Investigative Reporter Thom Jensen found nearly every disabled parking spot was taken. Dozens more metered spots also had cars and trucks in them - parked free of charge.
http://www.abc10.com/news/local/one-out-of-every-8-californi...
> At any given moment, on any given street, more than a third of the vehicles displaying the tags -- and parking without paying -- are doing so illegally, say officials with the California Department of Motor Vehicles.
http://articles.latimes.com/2011/may/22/local/la-me-disabled...
You see this pretty much everywhere. At the Mammoth Mountain Ski Area, it's not uncommon to see a family park at one of the coveted disabled spots right next to the slopes, take down four pairs of skis, and start hitting the pow. The UCLA football team was discovered a while back to be possessing placards.
The issue raised is reminiscent of how the number of people on disability dramatically rose during the financial crisis. And that's the sort of thing that's actually much worse because it's incredibly costly to society. But it's not just that one time period. As this link shows (http://apps.npr.org/unfit-for-work/) that correlation of disability with the employment rate is nothing new.
But back to the main point here - for purposes of disability parking, in nearly every case someone should be able to look to see if someone is actually disabled. Again, this is for the purposes of having that placard, nothing else. That's because the reason for having that placard is to make the distance walked shorter for those who really need it. It should be obvious to anyone looking if someone may be having a much tougher time walking than the average person. For those on disability for legitimate reasons but may not have trouble walking - guess what, they don't need the placard and can walk the extra 100 or 200 feet. What we're talking about here is something that should be visibly verifiable in the overwhelming majority of cases.
Just because someone can walk from the closest parking space into a store doesn't mean they aren't injured and don't need a placard. So opening the article that way really demonstrates a lack of understanding.
The process to review an application for a disability placard I'm quite sure takes longer to complete than that of a simple license renewal. If there's a fee for one, why would there not be a fee for the other? Also, there is no requirement that they apply for the placard and could always not apply for it if the $25 really made that much of a difference to them - a cost, I remind you, which would cover 2-4 years so we're talking about 50 cents to a dollar a month. And which would also help to make spots more available to them by stopping the scumbags who are using their dead grandmother's tag to park in the best spots every time they go out.
So there would not need to be any harassment of people who don't seem disabled. We would continue to assume, as we do today, that the issuance of the tag is valid. We would just be checking that when it is utilized, the person associated with it is actually present.
"After that the state only has to authenticate the doctor's note and issue the placard." - maybe it is that simple. Let's assume it is. But when I renew my driver's via postal mail there is literally nothing that needs to be checked or verified. It's one piece of paper that requires no verifying documents and just gets processed. And it still costs something like $24 in my state. And for vehicle registration the process is nearly identical and yet it costs $56 where I live. You're argument in this regard doesn't hold merit because it is entirely inconsistent, unless you also believe the fees for those should be waived because they are disabled. And please spare me the "aggravating inequality" nonsense. All of that is a product of the entitlement mentality that has become far too common. Most people who are disabled receive a government benefit in some form or another. So the idea that a very, very small portion of the money that is already taken from others and given to the disabled be used to give them another benefit is not insane, especially when it's a voluntary application. Guess what, things and services cost money. Asking someone to shell out a pro-rated amount of 50 cents to a dollar a month to have that placard benefit from funds the taxpayers give them is entirely reasonable.
Yeah, flat fees do mean more to poorer people. But basic consumer protection laws dictate that you are supposed to charge like buyers the same rate. And if the cost of doing whatever costs X, it doesn't magically cost less than X because someone is poor. It still costs X and that money is coming from somewhere. In the end, all you're really arguing for is an additional flat benefit of $25 to be given to anyone who is deemed legally disabled. Whether it gets paid to them first or is absorbed on the back end doesn't mean much, except for perhaps income tax purposes if they received it first so they would have to pay with after tax money (like the rest of us).
There are other problems. I used to work with a guy in a wheelchair and life for those people is hell, at least once a week when his non-handicapped brother picked him up in the lift van after work, some do-gooder would scream at his brother for being evil enough to park in a handicapped spot, he would even get blocked in until the cops arrive, do-gooders just make life for everyone awful.
Not all of those justify an handicapped parking spot, but way more than 1% of the population deserves one.
If a store has 99% handicapped customers, it's only because it's actually hostile to people with an handicap.
At least in my state.
Source: personal experience knowing at least 5 non-motorist (and personally driving them) and 3 children with disabled platecards. My grandma (never knew how to drive) kept hers in my mom's car since my mom was the one driving her 95% of the time. It actually didn't make any sense for her to have one though because she was always pushed in a wheelchair by a non-disabled person.
A handicapped flash mob would honestly be kind of cool.
This program has good intentions, but it needs to be more precise about how many parking spots are actually needed, and who actually needs them.
I can just imagine the process when someone starts having the power to tell people they aren't disabled enough to get a placard.
We like to think these things will follow some common-sense logic, but in reality that's rarely the case.
There's some low-hanging fruit like revoking old placards, but I don't think this should get a whole lot of attention. Perhaps I'm just not part of the club that says we need police to make sure people aren't being assholes.
> [The auditor recommends to...] Allow parking meter enforcers to access state placard data so they can nab cheaters on the spot. Now they must go through sworn law enforcement who are often too busy handling serious crime.
I understand that you feel these efforts should be ignored because there is real "serious crime" to address.
But I disagree: a society with few felonies but a rampaging problem with unenforced misdemeanors is not a nice place. It's reasonable to devote a large effort towards preventing serious crime, but an appropriate effort towards less serious crime is not zero.
Alternatively, you're correct that we don't need police to make sure people aren't being assholes. They have more important things to do. But we do need parking meter enforcement officers, and they should be empowered to make sure that people aren't being assholes.
Is it the DMV's responsibility to review medical claims and determine eligibility, or does the doctor determine eligibility and the DMV simply fills the request? If it's the latter I don't see any reason fro DMV paperwork to describe the disability at all.
> Also, 18% of the doctors’ signatures did not match those on file with state health boards. The auditor questioned whether 260,000 placards issued over a three-year period were valid.
What's the point of requiring a signature if it's not going to be verified? These should be investigated and if the doctor didn't sign them, that's fraud.
> A lot of placards that exist were issued to people now dead. They haven’t been canceled. The DMV catches many by checking state death records, but could identify thousands more by also examining federal data. The auditor figures at least 35,000.
I can't imagine this is costing the taxpayers any money or that people are using their dead grandmother's handicapped placard.
> As of June, there were 26,000 people age 100 or older holding placards, based on DMV data. But there are only an estimated 8,000 centenarians living in California.
This seems like it overlaps most of the prior point.
> There is no limit on the number of replacement placards a holder can receive if one is "lost" or "stolen." Auditors found several people who had received 16 or more placards over a three-year period.
Imagine that, someone who is elderly and/or disabled misplaced a placard they may only used once a month when they go grocery shopping.
Someone with MS probably has limited mobility that isn't apparent as well.
1) They author didn't say sprint, they said walk "briskly" or whatever.
2) How do you know? My dad's injury severely limits the distance he can travel on foot. He can move ok at the start of the day but he's only got a limited amount of steps in one day. If he has to walk across the parking lot then that's further limiting his day. He doctor says he's supposed to use it every day but not overuse it. His limitations don't seem to be very apparent (at least to me) because he's good about keeping within his limits.
I'm always puzzled by how they allocate these resources anyway. They took away about 80 spots at the mall where our local Apple store is to make rows of handicapped spots. They are generally empty to begin with, and then you have the issue of context. If you can't walk 300 yards from the parking lot, what do you do when you need to walk a quarter mile in the mall? That probably has a lot to do with the empty spots.
Frequent breaks at benches or use of an assistive device. Before she stopped driving at all my grandmother could walk on her own, though very slowly. She probably could have walked from the far end of the parking lot but it was simply dangerous for her to do so. If she went to the mall she'd walk as much as she could and sit and rest, then continue on. Eventually she started using a walking before she lost most of her mobility.
One thing that I've noticed in some places around me is a reduction in those types of conveniences. I used to work in the mall that I mentioned in high school 25 years ago, and then there were benches (and garbage cans) all over the place. IIRC, older KMarts and Wal-Marts used to have at least something in the front of the store, which are missing now unless there is a food place in the store.
Now, they seem to be building these weird little "living room" spaces with couches, but there are fewer benches, indoor foliage plots, old-school water features and similar 80's stuff with boundary walls to sit on.
I had a cousin who had a temporary placard because he had knee surgery and was supposed to walk a very limited amount throughout the recovery. He wasn't "disabled" per say but he wouldn't have recovered properly if he had been walking everywhere during his recovery. I wonder what the author would think of him.
One solution to this would be to allow pregnant woman and parents with young children (under the age of 5) to park in handicapped spots. This would lead to a higher utilization, and greater safety. Little kids can be hard to control, and dart everywhere, saving just a few young lives would make it worthwhile. And pregnant women shouldn't be forced to park in the back of the lot, esp. when they'll need to carry groceries or other purchases.
Accommodations like this I would hope would also cool the jets of people like the author. They'd see the handicapped spaces being used more, and hopefully realize there is a wide range of people in our society who need this assistance.
I think it was Las Vegas where I saw people orbiting the 30 or so Handicap marked spots Walmart looking for one to open up. The casino spot were also nearly always full. Of course Las Vegas has a large number of retirees and a fairly generous handicap placard handout policy. So between the two, the spots are well utilized.
There was a similar Oakland story about abuse : http://www.nbcbayarea.com/investigations/DMV-and-Oakland-Pol... which is the kind of thing that gets people angry.
What sucks is that there tends to be a stigma that goes along with having a placard, because, among other reasons, it's sometimes the case that onlookers judge someone who puts up a placard on their mirror as if they are lying about their disability just to park closer. It's one of the reasons why people with legitimate disabilities tend not to use them when they have them, even at meters.
Author contributes to this by seemingly lumping people who have real, non-apparent disabilities with those who pretend to have a disability.
That said, I have a family member who is a 16 year old soccer star who has a handicap tag. Her grandfather, who is a disabled vet, bought her car, and apparently due to how the registration works she also got the same tag. (I have no idea if she abuses this however; she seems pretty honest)
All we have to use is use that sign and 100% of this will cease to exist. I highly doubt his 100% number will hold in the aggregate, but even if it's 80% that's impressive for just changing the signage.
Basically, it was a problem caused by a fix to a problem caused by a fix to a problem caused by a bad design decision. The obvious fix would have altered the behavior of the first fix, which we weren't sure we could do, because someone may have come to rely on the behavior of the first fix.
But overall, we were just very frustrated that we couldn't just address the initial bad design decision, and make the whole mess evaporate into the aether, because none of those problems exist with the standard (and good enough) design.
The disability parking placard is a fix to a fix to a fix to a fix to a fix to a problem caused by a bad design decision. We can't exactly go all the way back to the root problem without a time machine, but we don't have to be stuck messing around at the leaf-level of the problem tree.
The best solution to the blue parking spaces problem is probably not to mess around with plates and placards. It may actually be to reduce the need for anyone--and the people with mobility impairments in particular--to continually walk across parking lots in order to live their lives.
There shouldn't really be that much of a distinction between medically unable to walk, too lazy to walk, and too busy/important to walk. If everyone only had to walk as much as they wanted to, no one would have to pretend they couldn't. The real problem is that everything in the US is already so far apart you can't economically walk any of it, and therefore you have to drive. So you have to make everything even further apart, to accommodate cars. But now you have to walk and drive and park and walk. Then you have to regulate parking for people who can't walk as much. And then people cheat, because they already have to park so far away from the place they actually want to be. You're just piling patches on top of fixes.
So you design to eliminate the walking in the first place, and have your parks and rec departments install unnecessary superfluous walking trails for the people who still want to walk without a treadmill.
(This is essentially the same problem in Dwarf Fortress for how to get and maintain a large population without killing your framerate. You essentially have to eliminate pathfinding from your fortress, so that your dwarves never have to walk more than a few steps to do anything. It is tremendously difficult to do that without some very detailed planning.)
2.) Just like the voter ID thing, show that it's actually a problem before devoting a bunch of resources on a witch hunt.