Hacker News Reader

Comment by downandout | Hacker News Reader

This festival has ignited a Twitter war between the haves and the have nots. One particularly tone deaf tweet (if you read her entire feed over the last 24 hours, you will understand why poor/middle class people dislike most outrageously rich people and vice versa):

https://twitter.com/storeyfrizzell/status/858091444275302400

View on HN

I think it's a parody account, right?

> I'd rather be on a yacht out of touch with reality. We all our preferences; some just are unable to have them

> Just bc I'm rich doesn't mean I don't have problems. In fact I've been devastated about the furniture my decorator chose

> I'm funemloyed, much better than actually being employed. Try it sometime...if you can

Regardless, in general, disliking people just because they're rich seems unhelpful and a quick way to jealously and discontentment. Being angered by wealthy individuals who actively abuse those with less is an entirely different story though.

I looked through it and it appears not to be. My first impression was similar to yours, but all was normal on the account until the Fyre Festival and she began complaining about the conditions and how she was having problems getting her father's jet in to pick her up. Friends of hers also had private jets come get them. The things you posted were in response to criticism of her wealth and I think at that point she became angry and started going into full snob-mode.

I didn't say that I dislike rich people, I was just saying that a mutual hatred between classes seems to be common in today's America. Her recent Twitter feed puts that on full display.

My apologies, I didn't mean to imply that you dislike rich people, or anything about you personally! My comments were just reflecting on my own experiences of feeling antipathy towards those with more and trying to figure out what's productive and what's unhealthy.

No, because even if this account is real, most rich people do not agree with this person. This is one possibly-real person being a bad person. No need to spin that into a theory about class hatred.

> I did not go to the #fyrefestival. I'm shocked the majority of people didn't catch on to the fact that we were trolling.

https://twitter.com/storeyfrizzell/status/858562982627786752

Yeah, just posted. My point still stands, there was a lot of hate being spewed at legitimate attendees. It figures that I choose to single out one that turns out to be an authentic looking troll that reveals it just after I mention it, but that's just my bad luck.

Literally the last 7 tweets as of right now (all of which are older than this comment) are the account owner saying she was trolling.

I think "troll account" is a better term for it.

Yes - account says so now. https://mobile.twitter.com/storeyfrizzell

Snobbery exists everywhere. Programmers snobbishly complain about bad programmers. Workers snobbishly complain about people who hire workers to do their work for them. Rich complain about poor. Poor complain about rich. Everyone wants to feel superior and snobbery provides that.

As a programmer I complain about working with bad programmers because it usually makes future work more difficult. Is that snobbery?

Yes?

I mean, there's a good chance that the person you're complaining about didn't have all the same benefits you've had -- education, mentoring, upbringing, genetic, whatever. It's a very explicit "why can't everyone be as great as I am?"

It also makes you a bad coworker: if you have energy to whine, you have energy to teach.

Ed:

It would be nice if the people who disagree would explain why.

I'm honestly curious why people complaining about coworkers think it's anything but an entitled whine.

I have worked with good experienced developers and crappy developers. Its a lot easier working with the first group.

Have you ever tried to teach someone who is uninterested in learning? Or simply unable? They do exist, definitely. Right now I've got someone on my team who has excellent knowledge of academic computer science principles, and no appreciation for practical reality. This is a constant source of friction since real life so rarely looks like a textbook problem. We have tried, and tried, and tried to explain that, but he continues to be a merciless pedant and on top of that his code is simply atrocious. This is what I would call a bad programmer, and I don't feel the least bit snobbish for wanting him off my team.

I guess I should clarify my point. We (the IT department in my company) have been teaching the content editor (she updated the wordpress site) how to do HTML and some Python. She is effectively a junior developer now. I am completely fine with teaching people if they are keen to learn and I know people have to start somewhere.

What got on my nerves was previous co-workers when you try and show them a better way of doing something and they just don't care. They do it to keep you happy there and then, then back to their crappy ways a week later and usually I need to clean up the mess involved.

Give me an enthusiastic newbie over an unenthusiastic "one year ten times" developer any day.

Reply on news.ycombinator.com