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> Kobble is the only app available where you own all of your data.

What? I find that highly unlikely. In what way do I not "own" the texts I write in–for example–Apple's Notes.app?

And what is even meant by "own"? Even for something like Facebook, I'm pretty sure that I still own the copyright for texts I write in their app.

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Also, there are plenty of other tools that store data locally and sync to GitHub. This isn't a new idea. Perhaps it's the best implementation of this idea so far (I haven't tried it), but the novelty doesn't seem to be there.

Normally I'd expect something like "it is stored under your control" for the slogan "own your data", but that doesn't square with "saves directly to GitHub"

Exactly. I see very little difference whether my notes are stored in a github repo or a google drive folder. In either case they are under "my" account but I don't think I would say that I really "own" the data because either service could hypothetically be gone tomorrow.

That's precisely why we use GitHub. It's unlikely to be gone tomorrow. No data is stored on our servers. In fact, we don't even see it. The data is transferred directly from your browser to GitHub.

Is there any plan for a general git integration where I could point this at my own, hosted git solution? Then it could truly be owning my own data on my own hardware.

Weird that everything is saved as a gist. I feel like it would make more sense to store them in one repo. I went looking for the notes I created in github, and found a bunch of flat gists. ??

Public and private repos are coming soon, via GitHub Integrations.

Public and private repos are now available in Kobble!

https://gist.github.com/kobble-git/87ea625d421177f9e9307c6ce...

If you think that is ok, you're insane.

I'm one of the Kobble devs. Please read the comments above about sharing the various ways Kobble can be used. Gists are for the case where you want to share data openly. We will have support for private repos shortly for other use cases.

That being the case, its not made clear that everyone who uses that feature will be identified in a very public manner...

Yeah, that's not correct, with my application Noterium you also "own" your notes, that is they are stored on your computer.

Especially when you can access notes on your own IMAP server with Apple Notes.

owning it by being in another web app? I feel this is solving a problem I don't really have

reality is, github is a website, kobble is a website, there's no real difference in "owning" other than what those websites grant us in their Terms and Conditions.

weird.

We have improved the wording, and changed 'own' to 'control'. As was stated elsewhere in these comments, we are building an open content sharing platform where users 'control' the data, not us. Since it's in your GitHub account and not on our servers, you can do whatever you want with it.

Perhaps the word 'control' would be a better choice.

I use Apple Notes and store all my notes on my own server

By 'own', we mean that no data is stored on our servers. The goal is privacy and to protect your data.

We don't own Githubs servers any more than we own Apples. This statement is a falsehood.

So what you meant to say was "Kobble is the only app available where we don't own any of your data."

> You own all of your data. Kobble stores all data on Github

You really don't see that the above is an oxymoron?

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