The cost of using different sites on mobile networks around the world
whatdoesmysitecost.com
whatdoesmysitecost.com
[0] for lack of a 'better' word. better being mostly subjective.
Amortizing my entire data usage over my entire cell plan (which includes talk & text), costs me literally $0.001/MB.
You should not present $0.24/MB (US|Prepaid) as the "Best case scenario" when someone on a standard AT&T plan pays 240x less.
What is the magic plan that gives you 50GB for 20 euros?
The result: I've had to completely turn off cellular data for web browsing.
I can use mobile apps fine; chess.com, slack, telegram, email, etc. Streaming even pandora is out, but luckily they have an offline mode that allows you to download your station when you're on wifi and then play back whenever. But I can't browse the internet at all.
I'd be willing to spend up to $50 a month for a limited package, but at most that seems to get me is 1-2GB when I'm in Canada unless I want to sign another long term contract.
Every page i download, every news article, easily 2-3MB, and when your total data allotment is 500MB, you just can't browse the internet. Even hacker news, a popular post ends up being 1MB worth of comments.
That's the unpacked size, the transfer size (gzipped) is never over 100KB, even for posts with 1000+ comments.
The difference for me is 70-80% less data, but I usually browse mainly text content with relatively small amount of images.
[1]: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.opera.mini...
http://prepaid-data-sim-card.wikia.com/wiki/Canada
Some of the roaming options on there look a bit better.
$50 for couple of gigs is insane. I pay $50 with T-mobile for unlimited everything except international calls. You could say unlimited for 20 gigs before I get a bandwidth cap which is still usable. LTE speeds are faster than my home Internet with Frontier Fios
Maybe there's some regulation saying they have to onsell it?
Just curious because it seems a bit similar in Australia.
I was with Vodafone then discovered a much better deal through Kogan which uses the Vodafone network. I asked Vodafone to match the deal to keep me as a customer, and they couldn't! They wanted me to pay something like 30% more for the same network/data usage. I told them thanks but no thanks.
A few month ago every Public Mobile clients received a SMS. The SMS was a promotion to switch from Public Mobile to Koodo. We would get the same deal we had right now (or better price), a new cellphone and $150 in Koodo store credits to get goodies. Everyone switched over. Right now I'm on a $50/month plan with Koodo that is worst than the $35/month PublicMobile could give me.
Now nobody offers unlimited data or Canada wide data for $35.
(Disclaimer: I have a bad memory for dates and prices. This should however describe the situation correctly enough.)
Presumably they were onselling another companies network, why would that company sell their own network so cheap?
These numbers don't even take into consideration of the fact that 75% of all Canadians live within 200 km of the US border. Assuming the population in the south subsidizes the cost for expanding to remote locations it's hard to believe we need to pay as much as we do.
Canadians pay too much because the big companies like Bell and Rogers control the networks and push out competition. They charge as much as they want and we just accept it.
I currently do not own a cellphone (even though I'd like one) because I'm not willing to pay the fees.
The worst offenders are ads and tracking. A fuck ton of bloat that needs to be loaded. Every little action results in a http call. If you visit a page with disqus comments it loads every ad tracker it can find in the world and shove it in your browser.
It will back off to an earlier window size. It won't just jump to 1 packet. As of 2010, the default initial window size is 10 packets across OSen, so it's unlikely to ever get to 1 packet unless you're on a really lossy network.
That's typical, and completely insane. I run an image-heavy (but ad-free) blog using standard Wordpress, and the 8000-word homepage is around 1.1 MB on first load. I would never use a cellular data connection without aggressive ad- and tracker-blocking.
(FWIW, HN seems to have about 3x markup overhead, 2x compressed, for a typical comment page, which is not that bad.)
Opera has an even more powerful data saving tool, with the caveat that the data goes through their servers (no privacy). I can spend 20 minutes browsing the news, and end up with just 3-4 MB used.
The best thing about it is that the uncapped internet works in pretty much any EU country I've been to. This is really surprising from UK as most of the stuff in there is usually more expensive than in the rest of the EU, however I don't think I've ever seen a plan with uncapped internet and free roaming in any other country.
The prices are definitely skewed higher because of these constraints. As other have pointed out more expensive plans often have a better currency/MB value than the cheapest plans.
In NL, it will stay unlimited the entire year. The prices some people posting here are paying are ridiculous.
And FYI: the EU mandates that you can use calls/texts/data from your own, local plan in the entire EU for up to 60 days every year. Without any additional costs. (finally)
This is merely providers trying to be competitive and gain market share before EU abolishes roaming fees on 15th June [0].
A lot of providers I've seen have in the small print a limit for the time you can spend outside the home country (e.g. Three with their 'Feel At Home' limit you to two months a year abroad), so it'll be interesting to see what they come up once this comes into effect.
I'd be very surprised if my €5/month 'unlimited' (fair usage) 4G will really be unlimited throughout the EU.
[0] http://europa.eu/youreurope/citizens/consumers/telecoms-inte...
This year, I got a new one, and once I cross into Ireland it's throttled pretty badly. Which is better than my Irish one that goes on roaming at .25/meg once I cross the border, but it's still not as good as it was.
I think small sized sites weigh next to nothing. This is more intended for people with much bigger sites.
And while most developers know this there are still developers creating slow and bloated sites.
So this site is also nice, but I don't think it will change anything. Unless the loss would be cut from the developers paycheck.
Most of the size in modern sites is due to developers building out the design they've been given.
IE; If you increased the speed of your site by 1 second, it doesn't mean you would increase sales by 7%.
No, but at least it wouldn't decrease... Supposedly. I have not looked into Amazon numbers.
I use Freedom Mobile, an urban focused discount mobile service, formerly known as Wind Mobile: http://www.freedommobile.ca/plans-and-devices/plans
I get 9GB for $60/month, so that works out to 150MB/$ if I am at full usage.
Realistically I am average about 2GB/month so my real costs are 33MB/$.
The average website is 2.552MB according to this website.
Thus at full usage (9GB/month) my costs are 1.7 cents CAD (1.25 cents USD) per average website (2.5MB).
At average usage (2GB/month) I am hitting 7.7 cents CAD (5.6 cents USD) per average website (2.5MB).
I may be getting a better than average deal in Canada.
Yes you are.
There's nothing like Freedom Mobile where I live (Montreal). I'm paying $60/month for 2GB.
But that $60 isn't just for the data, is it ? The same plan without data but with voice/text isn't $0.
Note that they picked the cheapest plan with at least 500MB, not the one with best value. Furthermore the largest ISP may not be the one with the best plans at the low end of the spectrum. That skews the data enormously.
Pretty much.
Freedom Mobile has limited coverage and is still rolling out LTE to the coverage it has. You can't really use it as a counter-example when it's a no-go for many Canadians. The site seems pretty close to what you can get if you shop around (it's exactly what I pay for example).
CRTC continues to do a bang up job of protecting Canadians!
It covers most of the main metropolitan areas.
I even live in a "main metropolitan areas" and can't use it because I regularly travel out of "main metropolitan areas".
I know that in Russia the telcos were able to grab the spectrum at almost zero cost. Bad for the state budget, great for telco market cap, but looks like it's also good for consumers.
- Polish people are tech savvy and get easily excited about new tech, so there's high demand for data services
- there is a lot of competition. There are four major vendors, and there's already more than one mobile phone per citizen (and that's including infants). So the only way of acquiring new customers is to make them switch from other telecom.
- Poland is pretty small and have relatively high population density, so it's pretty easy to have good coverage.
- It is easy to avoid taxes (and even if you pay them, they are pretty low), so telecoms have a lot of spare cash to invest in the infrastructure :)
In the U.S. there are multiple competing carries of meaningful scale but the data plans tend to be expensive.
In Finland, using "the operator with the largest marketshare in the country, using the least expensive plan with a (minimum) data allowance of 500 MB over (a minimum of) 30 days" yields a 9.90€/month plan (Saunalahti Tarkka 1M) which has unlimited data (like most plans here).
But if it weren't for the single Google ad it would be reduced to more like 1% of normal page weight, which is more like my mental target for pages, ie 10s over dial-up...
PS. Yes, http://www.exnet.com/ from the days when I was providing dial-up in the UK, is ~20kB.
https://whatdoesmysitecost.com/test/170425_QK_0642ee2ef13f49...
Still a cool site.
Is that good? I wish there was some comparison to say the major internet sites.