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Oracle buys Wercker

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This does not surprise me. Wercker was the most complex CI solution I tested and without good documentation.

This allows for a lot of consulting opportunities for Oracle.

http://blog.codepipes.com/hosted-ci-comparison/hosted-ci-com...

Also the press release says "Wercker empowers organizations and their development teams to achieve continuous integration and continuous delivery (CI/CD) goals with micro-services and Docker"

But the official documentation says that Docker is not directly supported http://devcenter.wercker.com/docs/faq/can-i-build-dockerfile... http://devcenter.wercker.com/docs/faq/can-i-run-docker-comma...

So "Wercker’s Docker-based platform" is a platform that is run internally with Docker, not a platform that allows YOU the customer to use Docker. The press release is not telling the whole truth.

Great I almost used it for a project and ended up using Buildkite instead. Glad I dodged a bullet and didn't depend on something Oracle.

same here, so glad I found out about buildkite, has been amazing to use.

> Oracle is the industry leader in reliability, simplicity ...

...no need to continue reading at this line.

Among enterprise-focussed commercial vendors of similar classes of software, that description isn't actually as ridiculous as it initially seems.

Interesting. Was anyone even remotely picturing something like this?

Congratulations to the Wercker team, but for anyone on the "Never Oracle (again)" train, this means one less option for CD/CI. My only exception is VirtualBox.

Yep. My team is currently on wercker. I will now be finding an alternative.

If you are on Java this mega comparison might help.

http://blog.codepipes.com/hosted-ci-comparison/hosted-ci-com...

Thanks for that great honest comparison. We're working on caching support.

> If you are on Java

...that's a pretty bad place to be on if your on the Never Oracle train.

I was. They are squeezed by Travis, Jenkins, and other CI systems. Then gitlab added CI so there's nothing for gitlab to compete on so they just needed to get bought.

Derp. There's nothing for wercker to compete on (afaict).

Why do these posts always sound the same and follow the same format? Are they mandated by the legal department?

More benign than that. The world of enterprise software marketing is strange in that as much as it's about standing out from the crowd, it's also about fitting in with the pack.

For most enterprise marketing there is an accepted formula and very few now deviate from it, particularly around stuff like acquisitions where marketing rarely has the clout to suggest a novel approach.

In a way yes - if you're a public company you need to be careful about the claims you make in press releases and the like.

In cases like this, the Big Corp communications and legal teams are either writing the blog, or signing off on it.

https://ourincrediblejourney.tumblr.com/

Congrats to Mies and co. on behalf of the Deis team. Always enjoyed working with you!

Is this an attempt by Oracle to really get into the Kubernetes space, or just a right-priced acquisition in the broader cloud space?

My bet is on the latter - it allows Oracle to have a story around container management.

They already have a docker-based container service as a part of their IaaS offering, but management was a huge weak spot as most of the services are fairly new

Governance / control also a big big part of enterprise Docker sale along with usual DevOps move faster stuff.

Surprised how little messaging has moved on though and microservices still treated as a panacea for all ills.

That's very sad news. I used wercker for a few years and it's the best CI/CD platform I worked with. It has the best integration with docker (honestly it run everything in your own docker container, so you can configure/setup everything you need)

Are you joking? Wercker has the worst Docker integration ever!

In most other hosted CI services you can run plain Docker commands. But not with Wercker!

They even mention it in the docs: http://devcenter.wercker.com/docs/faq/can-i-build-dockerfile...

http://devcenter.wercker.com/docs/faq/can-i-run-docker-comma...

I never ever need this. Usually process a bit different. Wercker runs your building container, that you described in box section. So there're no limitation of commands or steps (how it called in wercker language)

Here is how your sentence sounds like:

I never ever need [to run standard Docker commands that work everywhere]. Usually process is a bit different [than using the standard Docker commands that work everywhere]. Wrecker [does something that is completely custom to Wrecker]. So there's no limitations [to something that is completely specific to Wrecker]

If that is not vendor lock-in, I don't know what is.

If you're looking for an alternative to wercker check out https://www.distelli.com. We do more than just CI - full K8S support + an open source container registry.

disclaimer: I'm the founder at distelli

I not sure they can build something useful https://screencast.com/t/XOvY3wA64NBx mostly I avoid waiting site loading with 40 sec per image (By the way I have 1Gbit home connection)

Congratulations to Wercker. Loved doing my internship with the strong and passionate team that Wercker is. Wish them the best under the wings of Oracle.

Boy, do I ever feel sorry for the team at Wercker.

I was wondering that Oracle is not member of CNCF and they do not talk about Docker stuff. May be they wanted to chart their own path totally independent of Kubernetes/Docker/CoreOS technologies etc.

But now with this news it seems this time Oracle is not looking to reinvent everything cloud related in Java.

i have a hard time figuring out what they actually provide ?

Hosted CI like Travis, Codeship, SemaphoreCI etc.

Hosted CI, that runs everything in container. Instead of using unknown, uncontrolled hosted CI environment, you can use your own docker container with your set of tools to build and release.

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