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Where Is Our “Package Manager for the Cloud?”

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The answer is called Helm. https://github.com/kubernetes/helm

PS: ? and " are on the wrong order in the headline.

Helm currently has the CNCF behind it, but there are a few more specifically targeting the kubernetes space.

Please name examples. Who targets kubernetes more specifically and why? (This is not to take your argument apart, I'm just learning about new stuff)

Helm is mentioned and discussed in the article.

Deis, however, is not.

Whether punctuation belongs inside or outside quotations is (1) different depending on British vs American usage, (2) currently in a state of flux on both sides of the Atlantic. Best not to correct others on that unless you're sure you're using the same style guide.

Grammar rules are for ambiguous situations. This one is very clear. If you compare the following there isn't much to discuss here:

A1) Where is our "[...]"? (makes sense)

A2) Where is our "[...]" (something is missing)

B1) "Package Manager for the Cloud" (makes sense)

B2) "Package Manager for the Cloud?" (What's the question?)

Be careful not to conflate grammar and orthography. The former is tied to the spoken language as understood and mentally represented by native learners, the latter is tied to convention and style guides. Grammar has nothing to do with punctuation or any other characteristics that are purely of the written language.

Helm, Tiller, Charts, ...why does everything have to invent new languages to describe the same things. I mean charts to most people approaching this is going to mean those things with axis and lines, not a map. Nor is a map really even a good analogy.

Yeah, that's really annoying. Sadly software development is not just about software, or solving problems, but about people. And for people these tribal power games are important, like enforcing your own wording on others or considering people barbaric who don't know what you are talking about.

No, it is npm

Ok, so, the only difference between packaged and managed is that the first one doesn't have an additional piece of software that manages running software in a distributed environment, kind of like ops. If we isolate that piece of software and try to come up with an architecture that provides flexibility to manage absolutely anything - we get supervision trees. Combining that idea with nix-like package management should bring us towards self-healing self-managing services the article has in mind. However, it will not be a package manager for the cloud, but a package manager for arbitrary servers in datacenters that replaces the cloud.

I hope NixOps will be in that list in future: https://nixos.org/nixops/

I'm going to say "inside a dozen or more discrete pitch decks currently oscillating between a variety of investment sources".

I wonder how DCOS is not mentioned. Its principal selling point is exactly this.

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